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http://www.missoulian.com/news/state-and...002e0.html
You seen it here folks, not everywhere is stuck with these bullshit Political Correctness rules and issues:
Quote:BILLINGS - The Montana Human Rights Commission has rejected a discrimination complaint filed by American Indians subject to group strip searches at a privately run prison in Shelby.
Guards at the Crossroads Correctional Center in 2008 made the inmates strip before and after their traditional sweat lodge ceremonies.
Prison officials said they suspected the ceremonies were being used to move contraband, although none was ever found. They denied the inmates were discriminated against.
Helena attorney Ron Waterman represents roughly 30 inmates who he says were strip searched.
Waterman says his clients could pursue the matter in state or federal court following the commission's three to two ruling on Thursday rejecting the complaint.
Too funny. Meanwhile, they will continue to be strip-searched? I do not think these guys will win in state court, maybe in a federal one, but I doubt it.
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Prisoners lose Constitutional Rights. Many cannot be given back, even after their terms are served. While in lock-up, there is zero privacy rights. The Constitution never documented a right to privacy to citizens - why should law-breakers get any?
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Doesn't this belong in the PC run amok thread?
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Thing is,after a while and nothing turns up,it does look discriminatory. I guess if you're a convict it doesn't matter.
Aurora's Edit:whoops, accidentally pressed edit button instead of the quote button....
my bad! fixed, and put my own reply in a separate post.
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Palladin Wrote:Thing is,after a while and nothing turns up,it does look discriminatory. I guess if you're a convict it doesn't matter.
Yeah and if they were seemingly targeting Native Americans specifically, in that they weren't doing that with any other groups like the blacks/whites/Mexicans, then it could seem down right racist.
ah well.
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AM,
Those sweat lodges are unique to western American Indians and they do have a tradition of smoking peyote in some of their ceremonies. I don't think they need to be racists to target Indians out west for peyote smoking.
Indians my way weren't known for burning that stuff.
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Hmm. I can see why they would want to check the peyote, considering that it does have hallucinogenic compounds.
But surely those tribes also has non-hallucinogenic herbs that they could smoke instead as an compromise?
then maybe such strip searches wouldn't be needed in the first place. Ah well, that's just wishful thinking on my part. I doubt such a compromise would actually make anybody happy.
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They are criminals. Search them with impunity.
Even if they were not, search them anyhow. Not because they're Indians (which is the excuse every moron falls for), but because such an act could and obviously has been, used to funnel drugs.
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Since they are convicts,I doubt they have many constitutional protections.
