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US takes thousands of Palestinian refugees
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...and 17,000 Iraqis. OBH takes thousands of proven terrorists into the very midst of US society, where suicide bombers can inflict the greatest damage. "They were treated well under Saddan Hussein" says the article, what proves his link with Al Queda. The hard core of those hardened Islamists will be settled in Southern California, more evidence of links between Al Queda and governor Schwarzenegger, and via his father, the fanatical fascist, to Nazi Germany.
Quote:Atlanta - The State Department confirmed today that as many as 1,350 Iraqi Palestinians – once the well-treated guests of Saddam Hussein and now at outs with much of Iraqi society – will be resettled in the US, mostly in southern California, starting this fall.

It will be the largest-ever resettlement of Palestinian refugees into the US – and welcome news to the Palestinians who fled to Iraq after 1948 but who have had a tough time since Mr. Hussein was deposed in 2003. Targeted by Iraqi Shiites, the mostly-Sunni Palestinians have spent recent years in one of the region's roughest refugee camps, Al Waleed, near Iraq's border with Syria.

"Really for the first time, the United States is recognizing a Palestinian refugee population that could be admitted to the US as part of a resettlement program," says Bill Frelick, refugee policy director at Human Rights Watch in Washington.

Given the US's past reluctance to resettle Palestinians – it accepted just seven Palestinians in 2007 and nine in 2008 – the effort could ruffle some diplomatic feathers.

For many in the State Department and international community, the resettlement is part of a moral imperative the US has to clean up the refugee crisis created by invading Iraq. The US has already stepped up resettlement of Iraqis, some who have struggled to adjust to life in America.

The resettlement of Iraqi Palestinians is "an important gesture for the United States to demonstrate that we're not heartless," says Alon Ben-Meir, a professor of international relations and Middle Eastern studies at New York University.

But some critics say the State Department is sloughing off its problems onto American cities, especially since in this case the Palestinians were sympathizers of Hussein, who was deposed by the US.

"This is politically a real hot potato," says Mark Krikorian, director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, adding, "[A]merica has become a dumping ground for the State Department's problems – they're tossing their problems over their head into Harrisburg, Pa., or Omaha, Neb."

Saddam's guests

Palestinian refugees came to Iraq in successive waves over several decades, first in 1948, then in 1967, and in 1991. They were treated well under Hussein but were also used to attack Israeli policies, and their presence was resented by many Iraqis.

After Hussein was deposed in 2003, many of these Palestinians were driven out of their homes and now live "at the mercy of the weather" in rough camps along the Syrian and Jordanian border, says Mr. Ben-Meir. The number of Palestinians in Iraq has fallen from around 34,000 to an estimated 15,000, with about 2,773 living in camps, according to the State Department.

The US, which takes in about 80,000 refugees annually, hopes to bring 17,000 Iraqi refugees this year.

Categorized as Iraqi refugees

While the US generally doesn't accept Palestinians, Todd Pierce, a spokesman for the State Department's Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration, says that the Iraqi population of Palestinians falls under a different category from those in Gaza and the West Bank. Each applicant will be carefully scrutinized for terrorist ties, he adds.

The US reluctance to accept Palestinians is because it "doesn't want the refugee program to become an issue in its relationship with Israel," says a diplomat in the region, who requested anonymity because he is not cleared to talk to the press. But these Palestinians, he says, will be processed as refugees from Iraq.

Mr. Krikorian says the US should be the last refuge for those fleeing persecution. Only Jordan of all the Arab countries routinely grants citizenship to Palestinian refugees, he notes. More recently, says Mr. Frelick, Jordan has also shut its borders to Palestinians coming from Iraq.

Frelick, who has visited a camp on the Jordanian border, said the Iraqi Palestinians are "apolitical," and "basically desperate, scared, miserable, and ready to just get out of Iraq."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0708/p02s04-usgn.html
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#2
Well, they picked the right state to settle them in: The state with the highest "moral imperatives".

Their expertise in the black and gray arms market will probably gain them quite lucrative employment.
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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#3
We should accept Iraqi refugees. You sort of create that responsibility when you go invading foreign nations.
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#4
When was that moral imperative invented Palladin?
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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quadrat Wrote:...The hard core of those hardened Islamists will be settled in Southern California....

are they trying to balance the Latinos?
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#6
That would be OK so long as you limit them to the high desert--which is more like what they are used to.
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Ron Lambert Wrote:That would be OK so long as you limit them to the high desert--which is more like what they are used to.

I dunno... can't really see Muslim extremists in Las Vegas.

...especially when the predominant religion there is the Elvis Drive-Through Tunnel of Love Wedding Chapel.
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El Vis Pressallah PBUH is a respected Muslim name.... Wink1
Government is necessary because people left unchecked will do evil.

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JT,

Seems sort of the humanitarian thing to do. You make a cauldron of a place,in our culture you sort of obligate yourself to helping the worst cases. Hadn't you noticed all the Vietnamese moved here?

Same idea.

Why do you imagine England has all those people there from past colonies? They felt obligated to them after invading their lands.
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#10
Palladin, I think we took in Vietnamese because we gave up and lost the war, and there were boat loads of them trying to escape and dying in the process. I don't think we do this when we win.

White guilt is a modern, very recent phenomenon. I am not convinced it is a moral imperative, nor am I convinced that it is a worthwhile activity.
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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#11
JT,

I'm with ya on white guilt,I don't have it though.

Let's say I make a decision that causes you to lose your life's savings. Plus,you lose your house. Do I personally feel an obligation to help your family get squared away again? Yes.

That's what I am talking about.

I imagine there are Iraqis who have become a threatened group for whatever reason during the chaotic days. Some worked as translators for us,they deserve our goodwill and favor. Some are Christians who are in danger now and were not under Saddam.

Probably several other examples that deserve consideration.
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#12
They are Palestinians living in Iraq. They are not Iraqi's. Give them a ticket to the Gaza Strip. Not here. I have no guilt about it. If your thought pattern had wings why are we not inundated with Germans and Japanese?
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#13
Huh? Stupid question. We and the Japses live better than the Americans, Brits and Russians, more secure, safer, less poverty. Therefore, we won the war.
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#14
IF they are Palestinians,they should be transported to Palestine,not here,that I agree with.
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