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Who cares about North Korea?
We may not have to wait for the next famine.  China is more vulnerable than it's been in a while.  They need trade.  Trade requires stability.  Instability is costly.  They are already 'spending' a fair chunk of their instability budget with their efforts in the South China Sea.  Weekly or monthly North Korean nuke/missile crises will likely exceed whatever allocation they have set aside for Kim and his regime.  I don't think that replacing him is a necessarily insurmountable task.  China almost certainly has more inroads into the NK military than we are aware.  Kim's cult of personality and how ever may thousands or tens of thousands of fanatical fans in Pyongyang are inconsequential without guns backing them up.  There is no shortage of those in the same blood line that could be installed.  There are steps that China can take and narratives that can be called upon to minimize the disruption.  Again, it can probably be considered more of an actuarial exercise than a coup.  ... pick a number.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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The overriding point of this whole thing is that China is caught between a rock and a hard place. They are aware of it, just as is Russia. Personally, I don't feel the least bit sorry for PRC. But I do feel compassion for Russia. They are victims of that all important word: location, Location LOCATION.

We are facing a major cooling phase, to be followed by the next glaciation. And there is absolutely nothing the Russians can do about it. China, on the other hand, has been playing this game, and my guess is that eventually they will be losing out, and NoKo will be the least of their worries.
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John, what about improvements in technology in every field, including agriculture, irrigation, transportation, and communication? Won't nations be a little better able to weather adverse climate than in past history?
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(6 hours ago)Ron Lambert Wrote: John, what about improvements in technology in every field, including agriculture, irrigation, transportation, and communication? Won't nations be a little better able to weather adverse climate than in past history?

That's true. However, countries that are more Statist/Collectivists will not be able to keep up with things. The West, Mostly the US, will be able to move their grain belt further south and use enclosed gardening. But that is going to be highly expensive, and will reflect itself in the cost of the final product.

I think David at "Adapt 2030" is right on about all of us having to learn and apply gardening techniques in order to survive. I suspect everyone will have their own garden before this is over.
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