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Mini nuclear plants to power 20,000 homes
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Quote:Mini nuclear plants to power 20,000 homes

Nuclear power plants smaller than a garden shed and able to power 20,000 homes will be on sale within five years, say scientists at Los Alamos, the US government laboratory which developed the first atomic bomb.

The miniature reactors will be factory-sealed, contain no weapons-grade material, have no moving parts and will be nearly impossible to steal because they will be encased in concrete and buried underground.

The US government has licensed the technology to Hyperion, a New Mexico-based company which said last week that it has taken its first firm orders and plans to start mass production within five years. 'Our goal is to generate electricity for 10 cents a watt anywhere in the world,' said John Deal, chief executive of Hyperion. 'They will cost approximately $25m [£13m] each. For a community with 10,000 households, that is a very affordable $250 per home.'

Inserted by Mod: This article was amended on Monday, November 11, 2008. $25m divided by 10,000 is $2,500 not $250. This has been changed.

Deal claims to have more than 100 firm orders, largely from the oil and electricity industries, but says the company is also targeting developing countries and isolated communities. 'It's leapfrog technology,' he said.

The company plans to set up three factories to produce 4,000 plants between 2013 and 2023. 'We already have a pipeline for 100 reactors, and we are taking our time to tool up to mass-produce this reactor.'

The first confirmed order came from TES, a Czech infrastructure company specialising in water plants and power plants. 'They ordered six units and optioned a further 12. We are very sure of their capability to purchase,' said Deal. The first one, he said, would be installed in Romania. 'We now have a six-year waiting list. We are in talks with developers in the Cayman Islands, Panama and the Bahamas.'

The reactors, only a few metres in diameter, will be delivered on the back of a lorry to be buried underground. They must be refuelled every 7 to 10 years. Because the reactor is based on a 50-year-old design that has proved safe for students to use, few countries are expected to object to plants on their territory. An application to build the plants will be submitted to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission next year.

'You could never have a Chernobyl-type event - there are no moving parts,' said Deal. 'You would need nation-state resources in order to enrich our uranium. Temperature-wise it's too hot to handle. It would be like stealing a barbecue with your bare hands.'

Other companies are known to be designing micro-reactors. Toshiba has been testing 200KW reactors measuring roughly six metres by two metres. Designed to fuel smaller numbers of homes for longer, they could power a single building for up to 40 years.


Someday they should be able to build one roughly the size of a gas tank to power a vehicle. When the car is traded in for a newer model all they would have to do is remove the nuclear power pack from the old car and install it on the new one.
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You need to fix your link.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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These guys have orders already! So, they are not a pie in the sky dream. Small nuclear power generators have been on satellites and space probes for years, so I believe the science and engineering has been done. In addition the US navy has been powering ship with nuclear energy for decades without a mishap of note.

If these generators pan out, it could revolutionize the energy industry. One of the main problems with wind and large scale solar power is the need to build an extensive, expensive grid connecting the producers to the populace. These small nuclear plants obviate that.
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jt Wrote:Small nuclear power generators have been on satellites and space probes for years, so I believe the science and engineering has been done.

There is one in operation here in Sacramento though most don't know about it. It is out on the former McClellan AFB. They used it for the giant exray machine.
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About time!!
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John L Wrote:About time!!

It's been out there for years. At least 20. Last time it was in the news was when they had to xray the gates at Folsom Dam. I'll see if I can dig up an article.

meanwhile can someone fix that link in the article. It's bugging me. :evil:

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Is that any better Sweetie? S6
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John L Wrote:Is that any better Sweetie? S6

Yes, thank you. Was like a picture hanging crooked on the wall. Sigh.
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scpg02 Wrote:
John L Wrote:Is that any better Sweetie? S6

Yes, thank you. Was like a picture hanging crooked on the wall. Sigh.

I'll let you give WB a piece of your mind.
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After he is done with your mind,

then can I have a piece of what's left behind?


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but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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Or maybe just the behind? Wink1
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What does 10¢ a watt mean? Does that mean that a 100-watt lightbulb will use $10 of electricity per day, per year, or what? Is that favorable to contemporary costs? 10¢ a kiowatt makes sense.

If it is economical, then does that make Tesla Motors viable?
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WmLambert: I wondered the same thing, so I went to their website.
Their generators will put out about 25MW and cost $25M, it seems. Not $0.10 per watt.
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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Biker Dude Wrote:Or maybe just the behind? Wink1

Mmmm.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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Let's get one of these - Hyperion Power Generation

If it will power 20k homes for 5+ years, how long will it power 1 home?

Hmmm...
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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JohnWho Wrote:Let's get one of these - Hyperion Power Generation

If it will power 20k homes for 5+ years, how long will it power 1 home?

Hmmm...

The mass produced nuclear power module intustry is about to enter the market, in a Big Way. This is going to be like what you saw in the computer industry. There will soon be several big competitors vying for dominance and leadership. Imagine how the costs will drop, as mass production forces the costs into the bucket bottom. It's only a question of how long it will take.
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JohnWho Wrote:Let's get one of these - Hyperion Power Generation

If it will power 20k homes for 5+ years, how long will it power 1 home?

Hmmm...
The fuel cooks out in 5+ (or is it 7-10) years, so unless you can dampen the reaction (not possible likely), it will last the same time, you just loose all the extra energy.

I don't know if control rods extend the life or the fuel. It would be convenient if they did. I will guess that they do, since they reduce the neutron flux and therefore the reaction rate. If so, maybe the next models will have such a "thermostat" for the wealthy.
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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Good luck getting the fear and mushroom cloud picture everything gets in their mind when someone says "nuclear", thanks to eco-religionists and enviro-tards.

Then I will really celebrate these developments.
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Good luck getting the fear and mushroom cloud picture everyone gets in their mind when someone says "nuclear", thanks to eco-religionists and enviro-tards.

Then I will really celebrate these developments.
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jt Wrote:
JohnWho Wrote:Let's get one of these - Hyperion Power Generation

If it will power 20k homes for 5+ years, how long will it power 1 home?

Hmmm...
The fuel cooks out in 5+ (or is it 7-10) years, so unless you can dampen the reaction (not possible likely), it will last the same time, you just loose all the extra energy.

I don't know if control rods extend the life or the fuel. It would be convenient if they did. I will guess that they do, since they reduce the neutron flux and therefore the reaction rate. If so, maybe the next models will have such a "thermostat" for the wealthy.

The speed of a chain reaction is determined by the enrichment of the fissile material. The higher the percentage of U235 within the mixture, which is mostly U238, the faster the chain reaction. As the percentage decreases, the slower it reacts. That is why the range of enriched fuel is around 5-6% U235, and the fuel is considered used when it is down to somewhere around 3-3.5% U235. All that unused U235 is capable of being reused, were it legal to do so. Thank you Jimmy Carter.

WHy would you lose all that energy? By running water through the reactor, it becomes steam, and turns turbines to generate electricity. That is why creating hydrogen fuel, for the future, is tied along with the condition of nuclear power production. The excess heat can be used to seperate the hydrogen from H2O.
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