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Obama victory signals rebirth of US environmental policy
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...nemissions
Quote:President-elect Obama will shred the Bush administration's energy policies and introduce a major climate change bill in an attempt to bring the US back into the international environment fold according to his senior advisers.

Obama talked of the "planet in peril" in his acceptance speech – a clear reference to climate change. He will now send his own energy representatives to the UN's climate change talks in Poznam, Poland, in three weeks' time.

He is also expected to announce a goal of reducing US greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2020 and then cutting them by 80% by 2050. This will be via a cap-and-trade system with carbon permits auctioned off to industries to encourage them to reduce emissions.

The initiative would match Britain's ambitious 80% target by 2050 and would see the US overtake Europe, which is committed only to a 60% cut in emissions by the same date

The election result was greeted ecstatically by US environment groups. Rodger Schlickeisen, the president of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, said: "For the first time in nearly a decade, we can look to the future with a sense of hope that the enormous environmental challenges we face will begin to be addressed and that our air, land, water, and wildlife – and the overall health of our planet – will not be sacrificed to appease polluting industries and campaign contributors.

"It is difficult to describe the damage done by the Bush administration's misguided and destructive environmental policies. For eight years, the special interests have ruled, virtually dictating our conservation, environmental and energy policies."

European environment groups also welcomed what they hoped would be a radical new direction for US environmental policy. "Obama's victory will give crucial climate negotiations a much greater chance of success – the United States must face up to its international responsibilities and show positive global leadership in low-carbon economic development", said Andy Atkins, Friends of the Earth's executive director in London.

According to his manifesto, Obama climate change plans will be linked to a $175bn (£109bn) economic-stimulus package intended to revamp the US energy economy and kickstart new US environmental policy by creating five million new "green" jobs.

"That's going to be my number one priority when I get into office," Obama said of his "green recovery" plans shortly before his election. "A clean-energy economy can be the engine that drives us into the future in the same way the computer was the engine for economic growth over the last couple of decades."

Federal support will now be given to car companies to design fuel-efficient cars, a "green jobs corps" for unemployed youth will be set up to improve energy conservation in homes and community buildings, and science and research funding for clean energy will be doubled. In addition, consumers could get tax credits if they buy green cars or make homes energy efficient.

"He will put forward an energy bill ahead of a climate bill," said Kateri Callahan, president of the Alliance to Save Energy, an energy advocacy group in Washington that represents some of America's largest companies, including Areva and Dow Chemicals.

Renewables, including hydroelectricity from dams, generate 8% of US electricity now and Obama has said he wants 10% of electricity to come from them by 2012 and 25% by 2025. This still falls short of Europe where the plan is for renewables to generate 20% of all energy, including electricity, by 2020.

However, the global financial crisis could undermine many of his plans, some analysts have warned, with many clean technology companies expected to go out of business in the next 18 months.

Other analysts warned today that Obama could leave the UK trailing in the race to capitalise on the huge new opportunities for environmental technologies. Adrian Wilkes, chair of the Environmental Industries Commission said: "Obama has set out a comprehensive set of policies to support the US in the transition to a low-carbon and resource-efficient economy. This is a warning to Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson that the UK risks falling behind in the race to develop the technologies of the future".

The environment was a clear winner in Congressional races, with seven of the 12 congressmen known as the "Dirty Dozen" lawmakers – who have consistently voted against clean energy and conservation – failing to keep their seats, ".

"The Dirty Dozen represent the biggest roadblocks in Congress on the road to America's clean energy future," said League of Conservation Voters' president, Gene Karpinski. "Siding with the oil industry at every turn, they have consistently voted against policies that would create jobs, ensure our national security, and guarantee a sustainable future for our country."
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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#2
It never went anywhere,we're doing better right now than any Kyoto signatory on falling CO2 discharges w.o having our government do anything,has been this way for a couple of years,articles have been posted right here.

It is ironic. We do,you talk.
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#3
Arnold just signed a bill in CA that will tell us where we can live and how we get to work based on GHG emissions. Shock
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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#4
and to think, without the Government up your ass, you would have no idea how to live...or where to live...or when to live...
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ghoullio Wrote:and to think, without the Government up your ass, you would have no idea how to live...or where to live...or when to live...

How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb. 6. One to change the bulb and 5 to file the environmental impact reports.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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scpg02 Wrote:
ghoullio Wrote:and to think, without the Government up your ass, you would have no idea how to live...or where to live...or when to live...

How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb. 6. One to change the bulb and 5 to file the environmental impact reports.

Make that 7 - one to hold the flashlight for the 5 filing the reports!

:lol:
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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JohnWho Wrote:
scpg02 Wrote:
ghoullio Wrote:and to think, without the Government up your ass, you would have no idea how to live...or where to live...or when to live...

How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb. 6. One to change the bulb and 5 to file the environmental impact reports.

Make that 7 - one to hold the flashlight for the 5 filing the reports!

:lol:

chuckling
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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#8
How to Tell You're in Southern California

* Your co-worker tells you he/she has 8 body piercings...and none are visible.

* You make over $250,000 and still can't afford a house.

* Your child's 3rd grade teacher has purple hair, a nose ring, and is named Breeze.

* You can't remember ... is pot illegal?

* You've been to more than one baby shower that has two mothers and a sperm donor.

* A really great parking space can move you to tears.

* A low-speed police pursuit will interrupt ANY TV broadcast.

* You assume every company offers domestic partner benefits, a fab exercise facility, and tofu takeout.

* You're thinking of taking an adult class but you can't decide between aromatherapy and conversational Mandarin.

* Your best friends just named their twins after her acting coach and his personal trainer.

* It's sprinkling and there's a report on every news station about "STORM WATCH '99."

* The three-hour traffic jam you just sat through wasn't caused by a horrific 9 car pile-up, but by everyone slowing to rubberneck at a lost shoe laying on the shoulder.
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#9
Sorry, I just realized I may have insulted some Californians -

specifically the one's smart enough to change the light bulb during the day, and not needing someone to hold a flashlight while they file the reports.


So, to those three Californians, "I apologize".



I feel so much better now.

:lol:
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#10
thats okay, john. if they can take Obama's environment policy, we know they can take a joke.
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#11
We elected Schwarzenegger, we must have a sense of humor.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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#12
hey did you know that Schwartzenegger is the first body builder to run for Governor since Janet Reno?
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#13
Emails Show Extensive Collaboration Between EPA, Environmentalist Orgs

Now we know why Keystone hasn't been approved; me thinks Obama is in for a rough second term.
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#14
Nah, the MSM will gloss over this.

It should cause tremendous disruption in Obama's and the EPA's war on climate.

If reality prevailed, that is.
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#15
(01-18-2014, 10:02 AM)JohnWho Wrote: It should cause tremendous disruption in Obama's and the EPA's war on climate.

It is not a war on climate but a war on capitalism and western civilization.

Perhaps free market is a better term than capitalism.
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#16
Yes, free market is better because capitalism has become so tied into the states lately it's disgusting.

Here's a nice article pretty much demonstrating this AGW propaganda is about exhausted. Not only are the people turning off their ears to these nuts, Germany is showing the way ahead and they've been #1 cheerleaders for AGW abatement.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/20...saying.php
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#17
(01-18-2014, 11:56 AM)Palladin Wrote: Yes, free market is better because capitalism has become so tied into the states lately it's disgusting.

Here's a nice article pretty much demonstrating this AGW propaganda is about exhausted. Not only are the people turning off their ears to these nuts, Germany is showing the way ahead and they've been #1 cheerleaders for AGW abatement.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/20...saying.php

As I stated in another thread the Swedish State owned energy company is literally forcing all of the residents of one or more German towns to vacate so that they can strip mine the entire town for coal because the Germans shut down their nuclear plants because of the failure of the Fukushima nuclear facility in Japan after the major tsunami. Not for nothing but there are few tsunamis in the North Sea.
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#18
I'm no longer a fan of nuclear myself. I like the old reliables until we come up with better technology, maybe fusion or something.
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#19
Well, I'm still pro fission, just as much as before. The startup costs are high, but the new generation of reactors are practically idiot proof.

There is only one way to get something for nothing, AFTER you have paid the up front costs, and that is to get into space, and set up solar collectors there, to have the energy microwaved down to the surface.

Oh, and if you want to drill down into the crust about ten miles, I'll go for that too. But it too is costly.

Nothing's free commercially, unless you are a utopianist.
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#20
Thing about it is, it has to have government support and while accidents are rare, they're so devastating. If I believed in AGW, I'd say go ahead and let's generate all our power with them though.
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