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Pat Buchanan (yeah, that one) on the policy toward Russia
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Get Out of Putin’s Face

(If anything, this is surely, an interesting position adjustment for Pat...)


Buchanan Wrote:Making Russia a friend was Reagan’s great legacy.

I wonder how true is this, but I seriously doubt this was the intend...
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All I can say is he has a good point.

Pyssing off Russia to the point where their influence (yes they have alot still, as I have learned from the lengthy threads and posts) over the Central Asia republics is used against us and our interests in the region is a bad idea. Is that what you were driving at Michael?

(Pyss, Pyssing, Pyss off = bad words, I had to use a 'y' :? )
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While I agree with much of what he says, I think the major stumbling block between our two countries is the nuclear agreement between Russia and Iran. I think that this is a mistake by Russia, even knowing that it is a much needed source of revenue, AND work for her remaining nuclear specialists(those who haven't left the country and working for others now).

It's a mess. But in spite of the overt problems, there is still much hope for the two remaining close in the future. I'm still optimistic. Wink1
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Sounds as though Pat has joined the left, at least with respect to foreign policy.

I do think that constantly haranguing Russia about comparatively minor internal issues diminishes our ability to influence seriously important issues. I think Iran gaining nuclear technology is a BIG mistake, and that is where we should be using what 'capital' we have with Russia, not whether or not Khodorovsky (CEO Yukos oil company) was too harshly sentenced to prison for tax evasion.

Speaking of Russia, on Sunday I sent my wife and 2 daughters there for a month. They arrived Tuesday, and the 5 y.o. broke her arm that very day. I smell an FSB (formerly the KGB) plot...

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Stars & Stripes Wrote:Speaking of Russia, on Sunday I sent my wife and 2 daughters there for a month. They arrived Tuesday, and the 5 y.o. broke her arm that very day. I smell an FSB (formerly the KGB) plot...

-S

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#6
Buchanan has always been an isolationist.
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Anonymous24 Wrote:Buchanan has always been an isolationist.

Buchannan is the classic example of what the Republican Party used to be composed of: Federalists. But now the Republican party has a large minority of Libertarians/Classic Liberals who used to be Democrats, and they have trememdous influence within the party.

The Democratic Party, on the other hand is made up mostly of Federalists, with a large minority of Collectivists who have a tremendous influence within that party. Too bad for the Democrats, as Collectivism is a losing proposition.
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i remember reading a book a few years back that a conspiracy theorist recommended, i forget the title.

anyway, it was by Robertson, and it started off the opening chapter with pages and pages of evidence that we were actually behind the invasion of Kuwait. his theory was that because we had supported him over Iran, and had all these Spy Satellites in orbit, that we knew it was coming and did nothing to prevent it.

furthermore, our expulsion, according to Robertson, was supposed to facilitate a war over oil and resource sin the Middle East.

so, i don't really put anything into what Pat says. hes kind of a dunce, always has been, always will be.


and i F&#KING hate that 7oo Club!
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Quote:Your name isn't Jason Bourne, is it? Shock

Well, I regret to say I'm probably closer to the character "Barley Blair" (played by Sean Connery) in the movie "The Russia House". Blair is a boozer who unwittingly stumbles into espionage and becomes a pawn of MI6, the CIA and eventually the KGB, when all he wanted to do was have a nice vacation.

-S
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