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London Again.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4705117.stm

London has been attacked, only this time it flopped and the attacks killed no one so far as reported by the BBC, and the Times as well.
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#2
Aparently the detonators worked, but the homemade explosives were a complete fizzle. that is nice to know. I suspect that this is not the last we shall see of terrorism in England.
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#3
as i left for work this morning, FOX came on with broadcasts of what was beginning to happen. it was eerie to have seen it at that beginning. the Press was reporting a gun battle between the Terrorists and the Cops, but it was actually the detonators exploding without the bomb itself.

they left behind crucial evidence, and it will only be a matter of time before these morons are apprehended.

MY question is, if it happens again in 2 MORE weeks, will they finally do something about Jihadists in their midst?
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#4
Probably not. I suspect it will require a mushroom cloud over London, Paris, or Rome to galvanize the Euros enought to start mass deportations.
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ghoullio Wrote:the Press was reporting a gun battle between the Terrorists and the Cops, but it was actually the detonators exploding without the bomb itself.

I thought UK cops weren't allowed to carry guns? Unless they beefed up security around the stations (which they did) with gun-wielding cops this time.
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#6
for getting rid of guns, i sure saw alot of fully automatic machine guns...
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ghoullio Wrote:for getting rid of guns, i sure saw alot of fully automatic machine guns...

Only the gummit gets 'em. :?

Anyhow, I guess they'll start arming cops again. Heck, mabye even people will get the right to own a firearm again...
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ghoullio Wrote:for getting rid of guns, i sure saw alot of fully automatic machine guns...

Those are not automatic machine guns. A maching gun is a weapon that uses belt, or drum fed ammunition. What you are probably referring to is automatic assault weapons. Big difference.

Also assault weapons use a different shell casing. It is smaller and uses less propellent. Machine guns use a full size casing and can reach out far and touch someone that assault weapons would be hard pressed to do.. Wink1
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#9
It is not the guns, it is the willingness to use them. Not yet, but

Racial tensions rising in Britain's communities

In Britain’s communities, things are growing tense between Muslims and their neighbors.


Watch BNP's popularity. Unless Blair shows a spine, BNP will find its support growning.

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Also, some polling data here.

An interesting question is 4:

Quote:Q4. Some people say that foreign Muslims who incite hatred should be excluded or deported from the UK. Do you yourself think they should be excluded or deported, or allowed to live in the UK?
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22% votes "allowed" .... this is the liberal-islamist 5th column...
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#10
I doubt that many will be deported. I thought the BNP (There ain't no black in the Union Jack = racist bastards) was banned in some districts for their stance on some issues?

EDITED: From Wikipedia:
Such a tactic states that the BNP and similar parties should be ignored by both rival politicians and the media. The policy is most commonly associated with university student unions and debating societies, but has also resulted in BNP candidates being banned from speaking at various Hustings meetings around the country.

So they are still a functioning part of the politicl process it seems, just not allowed to speak at some places. Sort of like the German Neo-Nazis.

Anyhow, what do you mean by the willingness to use them? Guns I mean.
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#11
While I don't have much sympathy to BNP, they represent a considerably smaller threat than multiculturalists and islamists.

Extreme nationalism is not an exotic disease: most european countries had it and more than once. It comes and goes.

At this time, BNP and similar groups are also too small to be viewed as dangerous in any real way; I see them more as indicators of public opinion and most certainly the mainstream parties will watch them too. (cf.: Sarkozy taking a bit from Le Pen). Hopefully, the Brits will be able to deal with the problem without jumping into the other extreme.

However: if the center implodes and it does come -- ten years from now -- to the choice between BNP and Islam -- which side represents the lesser evil?

Quote:Anyhow, what do you mean by the willingness to use them? Guns I mean.

To deal with the radical islamist groups and their most active supporters. Either now, or later, when these groups will become yet stronger.
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#12
It seems that all the BNP needs to do is scream about how the Muslims are stealing all the 'white meat', and the tatooed, blue collared crowd will come out loaded for bear. Nothing gets up the ire of the manly like a poor damsel in distress. Wink1

Seriously, there has Always been a seething discontent among the common folk in England toward the gentry and aristocracy. Class structure there has always been divided, and it is still there today. There is something about the old proclivity to Anglo-Saxon violence, so prevelent with soccer hooligans and skinheads.

If another bombing or related terrorist event occurs in London, look for the Whites to come out in force, armed at least with cricket bats and switchblades. Shock
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#13
22% is a HUGE minority. It will be a hard battle if British people decide to confront this problem. I frankly think the day is coming when we cannot seperate good and bad Muslims.

Right now in America,we have a luxury of being able to do that and I am thrilled we haven't HAD to round them up and kill them,put them in guarded camps or deport them,but that day looms over the horizon.

Wisdom dictates the terrorists not cause THAT much havoc. So,their potential harm is limited by their common sense here and in Britain.
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