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Where's The Birth Certificate?
#21
Quote:You are now spewing out hate and that makes you a poor voter.
Why don't you try and SUPPRESS my vote, then? The right wing specialty. The right wing isn't even in favor of real democracy, they are always trying to STOP people from voting, especially poor and black people. The change is coming, we are kicking the right wing completely out of power.
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#22
Let's check out 'The Front'

Quote:About time that filthy whore died. But why is he going there? He doesn't even value the people who raised him. He's lucky I wasn't his grandfather, that branch of the family tree woulda been chainsawed off!

Quote:She is getting up in years and facing her own mortality, and she just realized that she is a genetic dead end. Her only grand child is a...not white.
Please provide a link
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#23
Because if barack HUSSEIN obama were going to plant a fake birth certificate, he'd only do it in person, dressed like a cat burglar.
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#24
Thaiquila Wrote:
Quote:When did McCain produce his birth certificate or have his Vietnam records unlocked to prove he's not ineligible?

He didn't, and nor should he have to.
Exactly. These are both NON-ISSUES. And yes McCain was born in Panama, and WHO CARES?

To American parents living on a U.S. military base.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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#25
yeahsowhat Wrote:
sunsettommy Wrote:LOL,

I never stated that Obama had to do that at all.

He according to Factcheck has the copy at his chicago office headquarters.He could get one of his assistants show the copy to the adoring media for a few hours.Obama can go on campaigning wherever he wants to go.

So why has he resisted reasonable requests to show it?


I don't think you understood the gist of my post. "scurry off" wasn't the key concept. A few weeks back, the McCain camp was insisting Obama apologise for the comments someone outside of his campaign had made (it was brought up in the debate IIRC).

Every president will have sniveling wrecks of humanity insisting he do this or produce that. A real leader ignores the morans and sticks to the knitting.

When did McCain produce his birth certificate or have his Vietnam records unlocked to prove he's not ineligible?

He didn't, and nor should he have to.

You are now deflecting.

McCain is obviously a citizen.No need to prove it.

But Obama is not obviously a citizen.That is why he should just prove it and go on.But he has not.

Why not answer the question?
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#26
yeahsowhat Wrote:Because if barack HUSSEIN obama were going to plant a fake birth certificate, he'd only do it in person, dressed like a cat burglar.

Apparently you can't answer my simple question.

Wink1
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#27
Quote:But Obama is not obviously a citizen.That is why he should just prove it
You prove he is not. You can't. End of story. This is non-issue and won't change one vote. Get a better issue if you expect to have any chance of your sorry side winning.
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#28
sunsettommy Wrote:
yeahsowhat Wrote:
sunsettommy Wrote:Barak Hussein Obama could easily end this birth certificate controvery by simply producing a copy to the Media.

It really is that simple.But since he has not done the obvious and seems to resist ending this.He is showing his poor leadership skills.

:oops:

perhaps leadership skills include not scurrying off to appease every halfwitted loon with a conspiracy theory and a bullhorn. it might even involve sticking to the work that's important, and ignoring the aforesaid halfwits.

LOL,

I never stated that Obama had to do that at all.

He according to Factcheck has the copy at his chicago office headquarters.He could get one of his assistants show the copy to the adoring media for a few hours.Obama can go on campaigning wherever he wants to go.

So why has he resisted reasonable requests to show it?

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“You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” - William Buckley
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#29
Right wing fruitcakes talking about BIRTH CERTIFICATES!

Obama to campaign staff:
WE HAVE THEM EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT THEM!

The economy in meltdown, America at war on two fronts, 50 million Americans without healthcare, record foreclosures, unemployment rising, global warming and THIS is what people are talking about! Great winning strategy you have. Its laughable, really it is.
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#30
According to Court documents: "Even if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, he lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother re-married and moved to Indonesia with her Indonesian husband. In or about 1966, when Obama was approximately five (5) years old, his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, whom she had met at the Hawaii University, and moved to Indonesia with Obama.

Obama lost his U.S. citizenship, when his mother married Lolo Soetoro, and took up residency in Indonesia. Loss of citizenship, in these circumstances, under U.S. law (as in effect in 1967) required that foreign citizenship be achieved through “application.” Such type of naturalization occurred, for example, when a person acquired a foreign nationality by marriage to a national of that country. Nationality Act of 1940, Section 317(b). A minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status of their custodial parent. A further issue is presented that Obama’s Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, either signed an acknowledgement acknowledging Obama as his son or Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama, giving Obama natural Indonesia citizenship which explains the name Barry Soetoro and his citizenship listed as Indonesian."

Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth.

In Mombassa, Kenya, there is an official Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen, attached as EXHIBIT “3” in the court documents.

Evidence shows that Obama's mother afterwards flew to Hawaii and submitted a "registry of birth."

What the court decided Obama needed to do was provide his naturalization request, not just his counterfeit birth certificate.

Under the Indonesian adoption law, once adopted by an Indonesian citizen, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child, Indonesian Constitution, Article 2. The laws in Indonesia at the time of Obama’s arrival did not allow dual citizenship. If an Indonesian citizen married a foreigner, as in this case, Obama’s mother was required to renounce her U.S. citizenship and was sponsored by her Indonesian spouse.

The facts are plain, and the court's remedy is also clear. Obama is stone-walling, and so is the media for not properly reporting it.
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#31
sunsettommy Wrote:
yeahsowhat Wrote:
sunsettommy Wrote:LOL,

I never stated that Obama had to do that at all.

He according to Factcheck has the copy at his chicago office headquarters.He could get one of his assistants show the copy to the adoring media for a few hours.Obama can go on campaigning wherever he wants to go.

So why has he resisted reasonable requests to show it?


I don't think you understood the gist of my post. "scurry off" wasn't the key concept. A few weeks back, the McCain camp was insisting Obama apologise for the comments someone outside of his campaign had made (it was brought up in the debate IIRC).

Every president will have sniveling wrecks of humanity insisting he do this or produce that. A real leader ignores the morans and sticks to the knitting.

When did McCain produce his birth certificate or have his Vietnam records unlocked to prove he's not ineligible?

He didn't, and nor should he have to.

You are now deflecting.

McCain is obviously a citizen.No need to prove it.

But Obama is not obviously a citizen.That is why he should just prove it and go on.But he has not.

Why not answer the question?

Because there is no proof McCain is a citizen. They claim he was born on an airforce base, but if you look closely, his mother was seen thirty kilometres away from the base without a car to get back.

Also, John McCain's mother had a bit of a reputation around town, so I've heard. Liked to 'mix it up with the locals' if you know what i mean.

JUST SHOW US YOUR PATERNAL DNA TEST SIDNEY, WHAT THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE???!!!!
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#32
WmLambert Wrote:By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth.

In Mombassa, Kenya, there is an official Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen, attached as EXHIBIT “3” in the court documents.

Where is this certificate, and what evidence is there that his mother was in Kenya and then flew to Hawaii?
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#33
WmLambert Wrote:According to Court documents...

Can you provide links to these court documents Wm?
“You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” - William Buckley
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#34
WmLambert Wrote:Obama is stone-walling, and so is the media for not properly reporting it.

What always astounds me is that you genuinely believe that the media has no interest in reporting these stories. As someone who was had experience working in the news media I can tell you that journalists stay awake at night dreaming about stories like these. It is the jackpot, the goldmine. Far from keeping these facts due to political partisanship most hacks couldn't care less. They'd defy their mothers, let alone their party to get a good story out there...
“You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” - William Buckley
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#35
mcabromb Wrote:...Can you provide links to these court documents Wm?

Check here. The documents include exhibits, including the Indonesian school documents clearly stating Barry Soetoro (neé Barack Obama) as an Indonesian natural citizen (by adoption). Plenty of other documents included show Obama is not legal to become President. The solution is in Obama providing proof of citizenship. He has not because he can not.
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#36
Mc, TQ, ysw, et. al. -

As far as I know, any time McCain has been requested to prove citizenship or provide a Birth Certificate, he has. At least, any reasonable request, and not simply some fool on a blog or BBS saying "show me". Can you show otherwise?

Obama, on the other hand, has not. There are two Court cases that we know of that easily could be resolved, yet Obama refuses the simply path and chooses to keep the process complex. It is not unreasonable for anyone to wonder why?

The further question revolving around his Indonesian citizenship status is also reasonable.

Why does the left-leaning media not investigate a story that would not be favorable to a left-leaning politician? That question is obviously too difficult for mcabromb, but maybe someone else here might take a guess. S1
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#37
JohnWho Wrote:Mc, TQ, ysw, et. al. -
Obama, on the other hand, has not. There are two Court cases that we know of that easily could be resolved, yet Obama refuses the simply path and chooses to keep the process complex. It is not unreasonable for anyone to wonder why?

No need to wonder, just be content in the fact he has supplied it and there is no controversy surrounding it (see above).

JohnWho Wrote:Why does the left-leaning media not investigate a story that would not be favorable to a left-leaning politician? That question is obviously too difficult for mcabromb, but maybe someone else here might take a guess. S1c

If you'd like to challenge my understanding of the media please go ahead. If you cannot understand that the so-called 'left-leaning' media does not care who their stories hurt or help you will always be stuck in partisanistan clutching onto your myths and warnings like the koolaid drinkers you enjoy referring to...You need to realise, not everyone is as exclusive (partisan) with the facts as you, especially when money is involved. Wink1

If you find me one Obama-supporting publication that did not run the Reverend Wright story or the 'cling to their guns and religion' comments then please shine a light. So far the count is nil, aiding your arguments equally as much.
“You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” - William Buckley
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#38
WmLambert Wrote:
mcabromb Wrote:...Can you provide links to these court documents Wm?

Check here. The documents include exhibits, including the Indonesian school documents clearing stating Barry Soetoro (neé Barack Obama) as an Indonesian natural citizen (by adoption). Plenty of other documents included show Obama is not legal to become President. The solution is in Obama providing proof of citizenship. He has not because he can not.

Did you read document 20? MOTION to Dismiss First Amended Complaint?

The evidence against the plaintiffs complain stands higher than against the defendant.

Case dismissed! *Gavel*
“You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” - William Buckley
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#39
mcabromb Wrote:
JohnWho Wrote:Mc, TQ, ysw, et. al. -
Obama, on the other hand, has not. There are two Court cases that we know of that easily could be resolved, yet Obama refuses the simply path and chooses to keep the process complex. It is not unreasonable for anyone to wonder why?

No need to wonder, just be content in the fact he has supplied it and there is no controversy surrounding it (see above).

Please show where he has supplied anything that satisfied either of the two Court cases.

I'll wait here.

mcabromb Wrote:If you find me one Obama-supporting publication that did not run the Reverend Wright story ...

Which "Reverend Wright Story"?

The one where we shouldn't support "guilt by association" and besides Obama says he "didn't know" or the one that says that after 20 years of hearing Wright's racist and anti-American rants it must have affected Obama?

Your bias is showing again, mcabromb. :lol:
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#40
yeahsowhat Wrote:Pretty low


Quote:Visit sick mother or obfuscate his birth records some more.
5 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:01:58 2008 by pissant

CAN'T THIS IDIOT DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE....
AND IS THIS HIS WHITEY GRANDMA OR HIS BLACKY GRANDMA
10 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:02:40 2008 by cherry


Scary thought, and I wonder if he is cold enough to make it happen. I say yes.
28 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:04:46 2008 by mw19

Somebody better trail this SOB. They are going to fake a birth certificate.
18 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:03:31 2008 by I got the rope


I wouldn’t be surprised if he was using it to try to get sympathy votes. He’s that dirty.
40 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:06:15 2008 by boycott


Maybe in her twilight, she is starting to tell the truth about the earlier days, and Barry is going back to silence her.
41 posted on Mon Oct 20 18:06:16 2008 by Chet 99

Yeah it is sickening.
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