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Iraq Was A Safer Place Without George Bush
#41
If some of them are not in the Paleolithic, they are at least still in the Neolithic. Wink1

Kind of difficult to bomb them back too much more.
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#42
Stroll: Cool new avatar. If you are so busy with geology in SE Asia, how do you have time to look for a new avatar? Or, did you hit is big with a new find, and can now lay back a bit?
Jefferson: I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
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#43
To the thread,Iraq may be less safe inside Iraq now,but the neighbors are safer,that includes the USA. Looks like lots of the hacks Saddam used are just massacring fellow Iraqis anymore:

HERE

Here,we see 6000 dead suicide bombers in Iraq,99% of their victims? Iraqis. All those anti war guys wish they had plied their trade elsewhere we must assume:



HERE
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#44
Palladin Wrote:To the thread,Iraq may be less safe inside Iraq now,but the neighbors are safer,that includes the USA. Looks like lots of the hacks Saddam used are just massacring fellow Iraqis anymore:

HERE

Here,we see 6000 dead suicide bombers in Iraq,99% of their victims? Iraqis. All those anti war guys wish they had plied their trade elsewhere we must assume:



HERE

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Well...

US is not exactly a neighbor of Iraq. But Iran is sharing a long border with Iraq. And Iran has had a peaceful time since Saddam left. No wars any more; no problems with the Iraqi army...

/track_snake
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#45
Track,

The Iraqi Army will be a little more dangerous after we're done teaching them how to make modern warfare,Iranians understand this. Just consider that our allies have a habit of winning wars,even in the Kargill conflict in 1999 Pakistan's US armed and trained AF knocked the snot out of the Indian AF almost as bad as Israel did Syria's back around 1982.

Iran would have preferred to face the putrid Army Hussein had armed than the one we eventually will,believe it.
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#46
Palladin Wrote:Track,

The Iraqi Army will be a little more dangerous after we're done teaching them how to make modern warfare,Iranians understand this. Just consider that our allies have a habit of winning wars,even in the Kargill conflict in 1999 Pakistan's US armed and trained AF knocked the snot out of the Indian AF almost as bad as Israel did Syria's back around 1982.

Iran would have preferred to face the putrid Army Hussein had armed than the one we eventually will,believe it.
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Yes. But there is little probability that Al-Maliki will go in war with Iran as he is a Shia...

And he won't help Turkey fight the PKK in Kurdish Iraq either...

/track_snake
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#47
track_snake Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:Track,

The Iraqi Army will be a little more dangerous after we're done teaching them how to make modern warfare,Iranians understand this. Just consider that our allies have a habit of winning wars,even in the Kargill conflict in 1999 Pakistan's US armed and trained AF knocked the snot out of the Indian AF almost as bad as Israel did Syria's back around 1982.

Iran would have preferred to face the putrid Army Hussein had armed than the one we eventually will,believe it.
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Yes. But there is little probability that Al-Maliki will go in war with Iran as he is a Shia...

And he won't help Turkey fight the PKK in Kurdish Iraq either...

/track_snake

Perhaps. But don't forget that Iraqi Shia are Arabs, and Iranian Shia are Persians. If you do not take this into account, you will wonder why your predictions did not come out correctly. Wink1
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#48
The "religious affinity" thought made more sense when Iraq's shia were ruled by Sunnis than it does today when shia's rule shia's in Iraq. This is self evident.

As far as Maliki fighting Iran,he already is fighting Iran's proxy Army and that's more than Lebanon's government can currently state as we watch Hezzbollah take over Beirut and the government cowers like the wimps most Lebanese really are,that's not a state anymore than I'm a black man.

As fa ras Iraq invading Iran,I doubt that's happened more than once in the last 1000 years .
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#49
Looks like Iraq is not hospitable to al qaeda anywhere if this guy is a measuring stick:

HERE
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#50
Cars of terrorists and thugs are no longer safe in Iraq from the US Army's detailing shop,it went global:

HERE
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#51
So that's what they meant by "we will find them and crush them!"
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#52
Yes,we call that the "Smashdown" anti terror technique.
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#53
There was some discussion in Bangkokpost's postbag recently about the justification of Iraq invasion and Gulf 1, one statement caught my attention. Pity I can't link to it no more. Gone the next day. Was by an American. Who claimed that Saddam obtained the ok in advance by America for his invasion of Kuwait, which was, after all, a former province of Iraq. America betrayed the agreement.
The same goes for the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, which was agreed upon by Carter and his NSA director, also to be betrayed.
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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#54
It's true,nations give us a buzz,we authorize them to do ridiculous moves,they do them,we respond by knocking the snot out of them.

Started with us authorizing Stalin and Hitler to invade Poland. We stepped in after enough Germans and Russians were dead,we helped finish off Germans for good,then we took it easy on the Russki and let them just decide voluntarily to carve up their own nation.

Works pretty good,it's funny how many folks call us up for permission to invade their neighbors,isn't it?
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#55
You did authorize Stalin and Hitler to invade Poland. Wink1
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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#56
quadrat Wrote:There was some discussion in Bangkokpost's postbag recently about the justification of Iraq invasion and Gulf 1, one statement caught my attention. Pity I can't link to it no more. Gone the next day. Was by an American. Who claimed that Saddam obtained the ok in advance by America for his invasion of Kuwait, which was, after all, a former province of Iraq. America betrayed the agreement.
The same goes for the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, which was agreed upon by Carter and his NSA director, also to be betrayed.
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I think Saddam got the impression from the US Ambassador to Iraq that it would be OK; or maybe it was from Madeleine Albright.

/track_snake
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#57
track_snake Wrote:I think Saddam got the impression from the US Ambassador to Iraq that it would be OK; or maybe it was from Madeleine Albright.

Or maybe a tourist enjoying some Iraqi Hashish?
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#58
JohnWho Wrote:
track_snake Wrote:I think Saddam got the impression from the US Ambassador to Iraq that it would be OK; or maybe it was from Madeleine Albright.

Or maybe a tourist enjoying some Iraqi Hashish?
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Well...

I don't know anything about drugs so I can't answer your question...

/track_snake
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#59
quadrat Wrote:You did authorize Stalin and Hitler to invade Poland. Wink1

Perhaps you can provide us with a authoritative link "Q"?
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#60
Track,

What if Bush called up your President and said,"It's alright for you guys to invade fill in the blank nation now". You'd do it,right?
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