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The election of Dmitry Medvedev
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Green Wrote:
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henrylee100 Wrote:I think you should prop your words with a pinch of statistic.

And by the way, enjoy this. Reality show, how to run successful business from scratch in a shyt-hole of Russia.
I don't have any statistics unfortunately, but plenty of anecdotal evidence as is that reality blog, yet some of the latest news has been quite worrying, they went after Eldorado and jailed the owner of Arbat Prestige, yes you can develop a successful business in Russia, but what will happen to you once it really takes off? As some of the recent developments indicate, chances are you just might wind up in jail after they pass a new law under which you were supposed to have paid some tax which didn't even exist when you started out.
Unfortunately Mogilevich is and was a criminal with a long history.
Read Pravda.
Quote:FBI put Mogilewich in 2003 on the "Wanted by the FBI List" for participation in scheme to defraud investors in Canadian company YBM Magnex International Inc.
Let's be happy we got rid of this scum.
dude, I betcha that when they arrest you the Pravda will also run an article telling people what sort of filthy mobster scum you really are and how we should all be happy to be rid of you.
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#22
Interesting that in a supposedly widening gap between the West and Moscow, that an FBI and Interpol most wanted gets taken down in Moscow.

Must have stepped on too many toes on both sides.
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#23
henrylee100 Wrote:what Santa isn't telling you is the real rate of inflation which pretty much offsets this growth in income.
Well, I would agree that utility bills for pensioners are real hard to stay afloat but Santa says that :
a) real growth of pensions is 3-4% in January (irrelevant to inflation rate)
b) real growth of wages is 15,8% in January (irrelevant to inflation rate)
which is not bad, taking into account that inflation is gearing up in Kazakhstan and Ukraine (as well as in Europe and China) and foodstuff in the world is getting up.
Summing up, take care of your parents, Hen.
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#24
Green Wrote:
henrylee100 Wrote:what Santa isn't telling you is the real rate of inflation which pretty much offsets this growth in income.
Well, I would agree that utility bills for pensioners are real hard to stay afloat but Santa says that :
a) real growth of pensions is 3-4% in January (irrelevant to inflation rate)
b) real growth of wages is 15,8% in January (irrelevant to inflation rate)
which is not bad, taking into account that inflation is gearing up in Kazakhstan and Ukraine (as well as in Europe and China) and foodstuff in the world is getting up.
Summing up, take care of your parents, Hen.
your santa is obviously full of shite, which is something I never doubted for a minute, last time I saw Vova Putin on TV, which was a few days ago, he was talking total shite. he had the gall to compare the pensions that were paid in the USSR with the current poultry scrapings. All those figures you quote come from the official Russian stat bureau and everybody knows they are the biggest bullshitters in the universe, Putin just tells them all the percentages in advance, like, this year we expect a growth in real salaries of about 15% and come the end of the year they deliver the required growth. So bro, I think it's high time you grew up from your infantile Santa fairy tales, woke up and finally smelled the shite that is your country (and mine too)
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#25
henrylee100 Wrote:...inflation is gearing up in Kazakhstan and Ukraine (as well as in Europe and China) and foodstuff in the world is getting up.

Off topic but of interest ... we're hearing a lot in this country as well about food inflation (our food is dirt cheap and plentiful ... so it's disconcerting to hear about a looming spike). Interesting to see you're comments as well that it's sounding like a global thing. Wondering if it is mostly energy related or if some other 'structural' issue (eg global cooling) is at play?

... just a random thought.

Have you guys managed to turn your grain production around in the last couple of decades?
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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#26
Henry

What's the prob, man?
If you don't trust Rosstat, you'd better check out Levada Center polls. This organization is internationally recognized and its stats about Putin's ratings are publised abroad.
If you still find it hard to believe any stats, just strain yout brains and remember what happened when "monetization reform" was carried out. The country was virtually on strike and the thread on this forum was like "Is Russia to get rid of Putin's dictatorship? "

mr_yak

I guess food inflation is due to high-oil prices and booming population in China and India. These are two major reasons.
Oil-substitute is spirit produced from grain and corn.
Plus share of gasoline expenditures in the cost of agricultural products have risen too.
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Green Wrote:Henry

What's the prob, man?
If you don't trust Rosstat, you'd better check out Levada Center polls. This organization is internationally recognized and its stats about Putin's ratings are publised abroad.
If you still find it hard to believe any stats, just strain yout brains and remember what happened when "monetization reform" was carried out. The country was virtually on strike and the thread on this forum was like "Is Russia to get rid of Putin's dictatorship? "

mr_yak

I guess food inflation is due to high-oil prices and booming population in China and India. These are two major reasons.
Oil-substitute is spirit produced from grain and corn.
Plus share of gasoline expenditures in the cost of agricultural products have risen too.
Green I wasn't talking about Putin's approval ratings in Russia, my point was about inflation and it is rampant at the moment, well maybe not as rampant as in the Weimar Republic following WWI but it's certainly double digit, my estimate is around 20% while the official reports suggests it's under 12%. The problem with statistics is that a lot depends on how you select your samples, essentially the way they calculate inflation, far as I understand, is they take a bunch of goods, then calculate the price difference in percentage points for all of them and then average the results. Now, from what I heard the products that are used by Rosstat to calculate the official inflation index include such items as pentium II microchips and spare parts for obsolete soviet era tracktors there is no no demand for. Naturally the prices for those items have dropped, the result is that by including and exclusing different products from their inflation sample they can manipulate the figures anyway they want and note reports on what products are included in the inflation calculations are few and far between. It is no wonder then that so many people in Russia today seem to be having a cognitive dissonance: from TV they learn that inflation was stabilised at 12 percent and then they go to their local supermarket and find that the price of their favorate sun flower oil has gone up 25% since last week.
As for Putin's approval ratings, all I have to go by is anecdotal evidence, the majority of the people I know call him a con and a liar and yet the official reports say he has a 50-60% approval rating. It may be the case that I simply associate with the wrong people and the rest of russia out their is in exstacy over the man, hell, I bet when he dies they'll put him in the masoleum instead of Lenin.
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#28
mr_yak Wrote:
henrylee100 Wrote:...inflation is gearing up in Kazakhstan and Ukraine (as well as in Europe and China) and foodstuff in the world is getting up.

Off topic but of interest ... we're hearing a lot in this country as well about food inflation (our food is dirt cheap and plentiful ... so it's disconcerting to hear about a looming spike). Interesting to see you're comments as well that it's sounding like a global thing. Wondering if it is mostly energy related or if some other 'structural' issue (eg global cooling) is at play?

... just a random thought.

Have you guys managed to turn your grain production around in the last couple of decades?
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It is not smaller harvests of grain or a global cooling that is behind (because there is none so far). It is the demand for biofuels that are driving up grain prices and thus foodstuff prices around the world.

How many people must die from starvation in Africa and other places to make your SUV:s drive on ethanol in the US?

/track_snake
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#29
Quote:It may be the case that I simply associate with the wrong people and the rest of russia out their is in exstacy over the man, hell, I bet when he dies they'll put him in the masoleum instead of Lenin.
They can't put Putin in mausoleum because the place is currently occupied and nobody can ignore the place he occupies in every heart of the real revolutioner.
The rest is just too dim for ordinary mind to penetrate.
They say, Russia and Ukraine are two major producers of sunflower oil (the third one is Argentina), and both have diminished cropland areas for the sake of winter crops. (Just note that the price for bread has been stable so far). In the season of 2005-2006 the sunflower oil export from Russia was equal to 628,000 tonnes, in the season of 2007-2008 it is going to increase up to 750,000 tonnes according to WJ Group analyst Vladimir Petrichenko. Obviously these factors had to drive the price up.
source.
Quote:my point was about inflation and it is rampant at the moment, well maybe not as rampant as in the Weimar Republic following WWI but it's certainly double digit, my estimate is around 20% while the official reports suggests it's under 12%
The inflation index is calculated by the method of comparison between prices of this year to prices of last year month-to-month.(January of this year is being compared with January of 2007). This index includes the index of consumption prices, summary index of construction materials, index of tariffs on freight transportation and so on i.e the index of prices on final goods and services.
These different indexes vary in different price growth.
From this POV it's quite possible that ordinary people can percieve only some part of the components in the summary inflation rate index when they consume the same goods and services year-in year-out and don't consume the others.
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#30
Green Wrote:
Quote:It may be the case that I simply associate with the wrong people and the rest of russia out their is in exstacy over the man, hell, I bet when he dies they'll put him in the masoleum instead of Lenin.
They can't put Putin in mausoleum because the place is currently occupied and nobody can ignore the place he occupies in every heart of the real revolutioner.
The rest is just too dim for ordinary mind to penetrate.
They say, Russia and Ukraine are two major producers of sunflower oil (the third one is Argentina), and both have diminished cropland areas for the sake of winter crops. (Just note that the price for bread has been stable so far). In the season of 2005-2006 the sunflower oil export from Russia was equal to 628,000 tonnes, in the season of 2007-2008 it is going to increase up to 750,000 tonnes according to WJ Group analyst Vladimir Petrichenko. Obviously these factors had to drive the price up.
source.
Quote:my point was about inflation and it is rampant at the moment, well maybe not as rampant as in the Weimar Republic following WWI but it's certainly double digit, my estimate is around 20% while the official reports suggests it's under 12%
The inflation index is calculated by the method of comparison between prices of this year to prices of last year month-to-month.(January of this year is being compared with January of 2007). This index includes the index of consumption prices, summary index of construction materials, index of tariffs on freight transportation and so on i.e the index of prices on final goods and services.
These different indexes vary in different price growth.
From this POV it's quite possible that ordinary people can percieve only some part of the components in the summary inflation rate index when they consume the same goods and services year-in year-out and don't consume the others.
S1
this is exactly why the officially reported inflation rates mean so little to the ordinary people, because they have nothing to do with them. As cast concrete replaces bricks as the main construction material the price of bricks may actually fall but that would be of little or no consequence to most ordinary people who are not directly involved with the consturction industry.
The bit about sunflower production I didn't really understand what you were on about, reasons for rising prices? I don't know where the price of bread has been stable where I live it's been rising steadily.
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#31
Official inflation rate is the "average temperature of sickmen in the hospital" and it differs for certain groups of population. That's all my point.
Quote:The bit about sunflower production I didn't really understand what you were on about, reasons for rising prices? I don't know where the price of bread has been stable where I live it's been rising steadily
Sunflower oil is just an exception, which is produced in Russia and Ukraine mostly. Soybean and olive oil are import, I guess, it has to have another pricing, calculated from euros to roubles (which must be high too).
Here the price of bread is stable 15-16 roubles. No spikes noticed.
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