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The Euro
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Anyone happen to notice that the US dollar dropped below another important plateau today and is now worth less than 66 cents against the Euro? Plateau being less than 1.50 Euros. Does anyone think it has a lot to do with more countries deciding to get rid of greenbacks or sell and buy oil not in USD's? If those are the primary reasons then there is no boundries on where it could go.

Yup, and all W really had to do was go to Afghanistan with his military and whack Osama and he would have had the help of the entire world to do it.

What a legacy!
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#2
We did go to Afghanistan to whack bin Laden, but a Democrat Senator on the Intelligence Committee, who thought it was more important to act like an insider than a patriot, announced that we were intercepting bin Laden's satellite phones, so we could find him easily. The moment he spilled the beans, all Terrorists, worldwide, stopped using all electronic communication, and we lost the intel necessary to locate him. Tora Bora was fully supplied with the troops and armament to get him - but before the operation could get under way, bin Laden, forewarned that we knew where he was, vanished.

The leak was infinitely worse, because Clinton had written Executive Orders banning Human Intel from our espionage agencies. Without satellite surveillance and electronic intercepts we had no intel at all.
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WmLambert Wrote:We did go to Afghanistan to whack bin Laden, but a Democrat Senator on the Intelligence Committee, who thought it was more important to act like an insider than a patriot, announced that we were intercepting bin Laden's satellite phones, so we could find him easily. The moment he spilled the beans, all Terrorists, worldwide, stopped using all electronic communication, and we lost the intel necessary to locate him. Tora Bora was fully supplied with the troops and armament to get him - but before the operation could get under way, bin Laden, forewarned that we knew where he was, vanished.

The leak was infinitely worse, because Clinton had written Executive Orders banning Human Intel from our espionage agencies. Without satellite surveillance and electronic intercepts we had no intel at all.

This all could be entirely true, I don't know, but I suspect that it is just making excuses for not getting Bin Laden. In any case it doesn't change the fact in the least that the task should have been carried out to fruition with the assistance of the entire world which was sympathetic to the US after 9/11. Except perhaps a few Muslim M.E. countries including Pakistan which openly celebrated what they saw as revenge for US foreign policies. And instead of doing that job, the US cooked up the sentiments of the people for an invasion of Iraq because fighting terrorism was exactly the right justfication for a completion of the destruction of Iraq and a permanent placement of US troops there to sit on the oil resources.


You will never progress with this issue until you come to terms with that! William. And I suspect that you never will but it's important to me to continue to rebut your ideas which I find to be quite ridiculous.
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#4
GG, you sure do ramble a lot. The Euro, the Dollar, Afghanistan, oil, world commodity denominations - I guess it's all just a jumble inside your head. I'm sure it all made sense to you when you wrote it.

I'll try and give a reply, but I'm sure none of it will make any sense to you.

With respect to the euro/dollar exhange rate, I won't be taking a European vacation this summer. Instead, my wife's relatives will visit us. No doubt they'll fly a US carrier because it will be cheaper. I they should fly on new aircraft, probably it will be a Boeing instead of an AirBus, because it will be cheaper. I work for a multi-national corporation; No doubt production will be shifting from Europe to the US, because it will be cheaper. So I'm not worried as to why foreigners are dumping their dollars, I get more job security and research opportunities.

The US invaded Afghanistan in Oct. 2001. The US invaded Iraq in March 2003. In case you don't understand my point, Afghanistan came first by 15 months. Europeans (excepting Great Britain) didn't offer substantive help in Afghanistan well before the Iraq invasion became an issue. Also, there were plenty of places celebrating the Sept. 11th attacks in the US. So you are a liar when you say "all W really had to do was go to Afghanistan with his military and whack Osama and he would have had the help of the entire world to do it."

GG, don't be a liar. It's not fun conversing with liars.

-S
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Stars and stripes- I'm not a liar and I resent you calling me same. But I will respond to your post because you seem to be missing the point on the USD/Euro relationship. When the CAD started to gain on the USD so rapidly it hurt business to a small degree in Canada on the short term and that was to be expected so you are partially right. When a country's currency declines against other important world currencies there are many more effects to take into account than just the short term effect on business and I will elaborate on those for you if you wish to get into a more detailed analysis. Also supposing that you are a person who wishes to talk about the issue in some detail. But of course it's pretty obvious that there is a threat to the USD and for a group of people who are interested more in economics you should perhaps go to the Supply Side forum for which WmLambert has the address. Those people are busily engaged in talking about the falling USD and it's consequences. Also, if you have an interest in such subjects, it would be a great learning experience for you. (this is assuming you don't already use that forum)

You should recall correctly that many nations offered help in Afghanistan and the help was not considered of any assistance at the time because the US was totally capable of destroying what was left of Afghanistan's infrastructure. If you're honest with yourself on it you will know that even the US has put Afghanistan on the back burner and is letting it slip away because of the Iraq commitment. Verbal support was given by all after 9/11 and in fact that was what was most desired by the US. And in fact, at the time of the Iraq war beginning, verbal commitment was all that was asked for because the US is totally capable of destroying a country from the air. Only when the war started to go bad and US military people started to be taken out in larger numbers was there any real request for military assistance. You can't buffalo me buddy and you would be foolish to even try. And don't think I am calling you a liar in return now because I'm not. I understand that you probably believe evrything you say becasue it's been spoonfed to you so many times it would be impossible to escape it now.

You are wrong about Europeans not offering substantive help on Afghanistan and you are wrong to suggest that other countries didn't.
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GG,

First, this is not an apology, but perhaps I was too hasty calling you a liar, which means you knowingly put out false information. As I look at your posts, I now think maybe you're just kooky. Maybe. But maybe I was right the first time. I'll watch a while longer.

You bring up the Euro/Dollar exchange rate in this forum/thread, and then refer me to another forum as a better place for discussion. Kooky.

Let me give you the rest of my response in GG style: You should recall that I said "substantive help" and many nations offered official verbal support which was nice buy not truly helpful other than it makes you feel good for a little while. Only the British and Canadians offered substantive help and both countries conducted military operations on the ground by the end of 2001. But of course it's pretty obvious that these other verbal offers of moral support were just official pleasantries since large leftist segments of their populations felt that the imperialist USA needed such a hit so they were never going to do anything meaningful anyway. That or they were worried about their socialist pension system taking a hit. Don't be foolish buddy and try and buffalo me with your poor little hurt feelings routine because I've seen this show before and I know you're just trying to be edgy to get a response so you can complain about your poor treatment. If you're interested in your victim-hood psychology I will elaborate on the issue in a more detailed analysis. Also assuming that you are a person who wishes to be elaborated to in some detail. I understand you've been brainwashed by Leftists into believing everything you say because you've said it so many times it would be impossible not to say it and not believe it.

You are wrong about everything and you are wrong to suggest you're not.

-S
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#8
S&S,

I recall once when the Seer was right,but I cannot recall the issue now!
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#9
BTW: the first main front on the War On Terror was behind the lines - in the banking establishments. Bin Laden lost his money, as did most of the terrorist financiers, and to this day, the terrorists rely on donations from useful idiots.

Afghanistan is fractious because of the war in Iraq - and as Iraq gets settled away as it is, the Afghan situation will also resolve itself as the terrorists lose their support. I have seen my earlier best guesses come to pass all during this war, and have yet to see the dark wishes of the Democrat-led anti-war coalition gain any validity.

I keep saying wait and see, but the Bush-haters keep ramping up the same old tired disinformation and deflecting truth, never conceding their floundering positions, as one after another they are shown to be wrong. I still hear the unknowledgable claim we never found WMD or validity for going into Iraq.

I don't worry about whether I am right or wrong. I concede history will prove these things, and haven't seen too many cogent facts that prove the Bush-haters' beliefs.
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#10
Among other things,people like Obama have concluded that Saddam Hussein's Iraq was innocent and America was guilty. That's not a winning idea with me.

I respect those who opposed the war because they felt it was a bad idea,but supported victory anyway. Not anyone else among the anti people. That would include me. I opposed invading iraq. I want victory now that we have.
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Stars & Stripes Wrote:GG,

First, this is not an apology, but perhaps I was too hasty calling you a liar, which means you knowingly put out false information. As I look at your posts, I now think maybe you're just kooky. Maybe. But maybe I was right the first time. I'll watch a while longer.

You bring up the Euro/Dollar exchange rate in this forum/thread, and then refer me to another forum as a better place for discussion. Kooky.

Let me give you the rest of my response in GG style: You should recall that I said "substantive help" and many nations offered official verbal support which was nice buy not truly helpful other than it makes you feel good for a little while. Only the British and Canadians offered substantive help and both countries conducted military operations on the ground by the end of 2001. But of course it's pretty obvious that these other verbal offers of moral support were just official pleasantries since large leftist segments of their populations felt that the imperialist USA needed such a hit so they were never going to do anything meaningful anyway. That or they were worried about their socialist pension system taking a hit. Don't be foolish buddy and try and buffalo me with your poor little hurt feelings routine because I've seen this show before and I know you're just trying to be edgy to get a response so you can complain about your poor treatment. If you're interested in your victim-hood psychology I will elaborate on the issue in a more detailed analysis. Also assuming that you are a person who wishes to be elaborated to in some detail. I understand you've been brainwashed by Leftists into believing everything you say because you've said it so many times it would be impossible not to say it and not believe it.

You are wrong about everything and you are wrong to suggest you're not.

-S

It's you my friend who is wrong about the support offered just following 9/11 and in essence you even admit that offers of help was forthcoming from many nations, albeit you qualify that with a wrong conclusion on the help offered. You foolish man, the US didn't need help to bomb the Taliban of course. Other countries did go into Afghanistan on a fighting basis and slowly withdrew some of their support because of a lack of US commitment.

And so you now grant me the simple fact that the USD eroding away is not a good situation? Now that you have learned to think a little deeper than just the short term effects on business which can profit from a weaker dollar on the short term? I knew you were smart enough to get it but I thought you would be honest enough to accept your lesson like a man as opposed to trying to slink off in disgrace. But thanks for the apology anyway Mr. smart guy.
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#12
GG, you need to watch this.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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scpg02 Wrote:GG, you need to watch this.

I don't 'need' to do anything right now Maggie and I don't 'need' you to tell me that I do. If you want to explain what the video is all about I may watch it if I get time.

Thanks anyway.
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#14
It's the Zeitgeist video depicting the Central banking system as being under control of a few financiers, and how every dollar minted becomes immediate debt, loaned to the government, and the only way to cover the debt is to mint more money.
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gray ghost Wrote:I don't 'need' to do anything right now Maggie and I don't 'need' you to tell me that I do. If you want to explain what the video is all about I may watch it if I get time.

Thanks anyway.

Interesting. Same crap you dished when I put the link up explaining about Karl Klager. Fine, don't educate yourself. No skin off me.
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scpg02 Wrote:
gray ghost Wrote:I don't 'need' to do anything right now Maggie and I don't 'need' you to tell me that I do. If you want to explain what the video is all about I may watch it if I get time.

Thanks anyway.

Interesting. Same crap you dished when I put the link up explaining about Karl Klager. Fine, don't educate yourself. No skin off me.

Why learn anything else, when you are all knowing, all seeing, and "fill in the blank".
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John L Wrote:and "fill in the blank".

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As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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omnipotent.
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#19
GG, I was wrong, and you were right; you're not a liar. Rather, you're just an idiot who craves attention.

-S
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