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'I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islam': Holland's rising Star
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If this does not warm Patrick's heart, nothing here ever will. 8)
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#2
Yup, islam exists separately from muslims. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wonderful idea...
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bh Wrote:Yup, islam exists separately from muslims. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wonderful idea...

Yes, it really does. Islam is a concept, and muslims are People,......who are supposed to follow that concept.
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Here is my view. Of course I don't hate Muslims,I don't even hate Zarqawi,I felt a tremor the day of his death just soberly imagining his eternal lot.

Islam? A terrible religion for sure because Mohammad taught internationalism over nationalism and he taught constant aggressive warfare via jihad.

Here's my nuance. As all Nazis were not Heydrich or Himmler,all communists were not Stalin or Beria,all Muslims are not Bin Laden.

BUT,all of each group support the strategic GOALS of the bad boys. That's why I cannot be honest and state any Muslim should be in America by now,they shouldn't be. No Nazi or communist should have been either.
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Palladin wrote:
Quote:BUT,all of each group support the strategic GOALS of the bad boys. That's why I cannot be honest and state any Muslim should be in America by now,they shouldn't be. No Nazi or communist should have been either.


No communists, no Nazis, no Muslims? Any other ethnic or religious group you need to include now that you're on a roll? How about Arabs? How about socialists? How about anyone left of you? How about mentally ill people? How about physically deformed people? How about trade unionists? How about Jews?
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Palladin Wrote:...all communists were not Stalin or Beria...

But they were communists, even if they were repressed communists, especially if they were high rank repressed communists. They built monster.
Don't even try to divide. Stalin and Beria were nothing but spiteful bastards without devotion of their beloved victims.
Ideology can't exist in vacuum, it exist in heads of supporters. No supporters, no ideology...
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No no, Palladin is quite right: Beria was probably a reincarnation of the evil warlord, proving that Islam and communism have the same collectivist roots and purpose, the destruction of Israel. Here Beria is seen raping a teenage girl, while her father looks on from the distance.

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I hope you have read:
http://militera.lib.ru/bio/beria/
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bh Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:...all communists were not Stalin or Beria...

But they were communists, even if they were repressed communists, especially if they were high rank repressed communists. They built monster.
Don't even try to divide. Stalin and Beria were nothing but spiteful bastards without devotion of their beloved victims.
Ideology can't exist in vacuum, it exist in heads of supporters. No supporters, no ideology...

You should have a private talk with Green about the joys of the Collectivist State.
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John L Wrote:You should have a private talk with Green about the joys of the Collectivist State.
For me it's not about collectivism, it's about peoples responsibility. Events can't happen without peoples support.
Just for example.
In 1917 my great-grandfather was the richest in his ukrainian village. During revolution two local beggars came and told - they will be "new masters" of life due to revolution they supported. My great-grandfather tried to explain them, that beggars will always be beggars, but they were so optimistic.
This guys were among first who died during famine. How it's possible to die from famine in plenty Ukraine I still can't understand, even if kolhoz take all grain. People who were repressed by beggars-optimists survived even in Suberia.
Today Ukrain is so upset about famine in 1930. They are absolutely sure about some enemies abroad, may be even on Mars. They don't want to understand - it were pitiful "victims", who made possible famine in 1930, repressions in 1937, etc., etc., etc...
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bh, my grandfather (hehe) was a director of a restaurant in the 30s. He was just 18.
Before the war he managed to collect such a pile of money that he kept it stuffed in a matress. :lol:
Then he built a house for this money.
First, a very small one so that "they" couldn't guess anything. The commission came and went, and he rebuilt the house into a bigger one. Wink1
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Green Wrote:bh, my grandfather (hehe) was a director of a restaurant in the 30s. He was just 18.
Before the war he managed to collect such a pile of money that he kept it stuffed in a matress. :lol:
Then he built a house for this money.
First, a very small one so that "they" couldn't guess anything. The commission came and went, and he rebuilt the house into a bigger one. Wink1

Hmm..., was your grandfather collectivist?
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#13
Well, he wasn't the member...
His father was shot down by White-Czechs (as I already told) so he learned to plow at the age of 7 (or to drive a tractor?). Weird story, anyway.
It wasn't here, t'was in the Western Siberia.
All of his relatives were of peasant origin.
As his mother was a widow, she sent him to his aunt here. He travelled under the bench in a train and arrived full of insects.
He never joined kolkhoz as he lived in town.

All his life he worked in commerce. ( The other grandfather was an accountant. :lol: )

Summing up, he wasn't collectivist.
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Green Wrote:Summing up, he wasn't collectivist.
Hmmm..., it's too complicated. If he had mattress full of money, he was inveterate individualist for sure... :lol:
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