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Chavez Tightening Grip On Venezuela Further
#21
Get with the history program Q! This declaration is rot:
Quote:drgonzaga,
don't we see societal change signalled? The exploitation of Venezolanian riches by foreign, especially American capital has been limited and will be limited further in the near future,

The Venezuelan state nationalized the petrochemical industry eons ago and what Chavez is endeavoring is nonsense in terms of actual benefit to the Venezuelan economy. Chavez is not only a demagogue but a damned fool as well who will further fracture the socio-economic stability of Venezuela and for what other than to rip out a few pages from a Gabriel Garcia Marquez esperpento. Perhaps it is your unfamiliarity with Ibero-American history overall and Venzuelan society in particular that has you muttering these inanities but most Latin American constitutional governments set specific limits for presidential terms under compelling reason: the taste of power is addictive. The "fearless leader syndrome" has brought more tears to Venezuela than benefits.

Before muttering on about "disgusting" Exxon and all that other usual garbage, I suggest you investigate the history of PDVSA as well as who actually nationalized the petroleum industry in that country: It was not Chavez!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former."

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#22
Along these lines,PDVSA production has been in a decline and that shows how awful this man is for Venezuelans. Of all times production should be maxxed out right now,but he has driven it into the ground by using cash normally saved back for maintenance to do his socialist thing,including international things.

As always in a socialist state,the average Joe will suffer,not the wealthy. They'll leave and much of their cash already has.
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#23
What is happening is that he is riding high on increased oil prices. But that will not last, as more oil is being found, and his share will decrease. And as Venezuela becomes more inefficient and generates less revenues, it will come crashing down on his head, along with everyone else, whether they supported him or not.

It's going to be a terrible mess one of these days. The big question will be, will he finally resort to violence to keep his position, or will he be forced to make a dash to the airport. I suspect that if he is not apprehended to stand trial for his actions, he will have a permanent warrent on his head, wherever he may try to hide. However, if he is dead, it won't matter.
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#24
Let us be clear as to the deleterious effects of petroleum on the Venezuelan body politics. In order to prevent political corruption--after all it was control of petroleum revenues that propped-up the many Venzuelan dictators of the 20th century--the leadership of Acción Democratica structured an autonomous public corporation, Petroleos de Venezuela, S.A., for the management of Venezuela's petrochemical wealth so as to prevent exactly what Chavez is now undertaking: the misappropriation of wealth for the sake of demagoguery and politics. If you read Spanish just take a look at the PDVSA web site today and notice how little it has to do with petroleum and management and instead resembles a propaganda tool in the cult of personality:

http://www.pdvsa.com/
http://www.pdvsa.com/index.php?tpl=inter...e.tpl.html

Just the names alone--for example: Ministerio del Poder Popular para la Energía y Petróleo [Ministry of Popular Power for Energy and Petroleum]--should give one pause.

PS: The PDVSA web site in Spanish is oriented differently than it's English version.
http://www.pdvsa.com/index.php?tpl=inter...e.tpl.html
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former."

Albert Einstein
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#25
drgonzaga,
Quote:...for the management of Venezuela's petrochemical wealth so as to prevent exactly what Chavez is now undertaking: the misappropriation of wealth for the sake of demagoguery and politics.
that's actually good, because you employ politics and demagoguery for the missappropriation of wealth. Don't get upset, I meant the plural 'you'.
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#26
Silly, Q, you! Don't forget to read from the teleprompter...
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former."

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#27
Looks like Uncle Ugo is threatening to cut off his nose in order to spite his face.............again.
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#28
Not the first time. Last year at this time, at a point when Venezuela desperately needs to be drilling holes, he threatened to 'nationalize' foreign oil rigs. Guess what? A good many of the companies have quietly found better uses for their equipment elsewhere in the world ... and Hugo's capacity continues the drop that started a decade ago.

Hugo's prediction of $200/bbl oil is blather. Particularly when the U.S. has one foot in a recesssion and the other on a banana peel. If he does achieve his goal, his benefactors in China are unlikely to be very pleased.

Quote:Exxon's move is the boldest challenge yet by an oil major against any of the governments from Russia to Ecuador that have moved to increase their control over natural resources as energy and commodity prices have soared.

Industry analysts believe other companies could follow Exxon's lead if it prevails in a court battle that could take several years.

Apparently Exxon has decided it simply isn't going to fold up like a lawn chair the way Shell did with Putin.
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#29
mr_yak Wrote:Not the first time. Last year at this time, at a point when Venezuela desperately needs to be drilling holes, he threatened to 'nationalize' foreign oil rigs. Guess what? A good many of the companies have quietly found better uses for their equipment elsewhere in the world ... and Hugo's capacity continues the drop that started a decade ago.

Can anyone blame them? If they go there, they just might have their equipment nationalized.
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#30
Is his tightened grip on Venezuela about to pried loose next week? Its just possible, so stay tuned: Venezuela goes to the polls a week today, and a charismatic young leader is poised to end the President's 14-year rule.

Of course Uncle Hugo has all the money and power at his disposal.
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#31
It should be close if it's above board. Poor Venezuelans are getting like the Cubans and Castro, they still tend to revere Chavez , but, the deal is turning sour and it's come time to reckon why.

Why are our food stores having long lines and low quantities of foodstuffs? Why are we having these electric outages, we didn't used to?

Why this and why that.

I honestly think even if Chavez wins, the policy positions long term are on their way out. He's been there long enough to have caused serious damage to his nation and even the envious poor see it now.
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#32
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#33
Interesting news about Uncle Ugo's successful cancer treatment in technically advanced Cuba: Hugo Chavez sent back to Venezuela to die, report says.

I wonder if the Catholic Church will elevate Uncle Ugo to sainthood?
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#34
Any evidence that he could have gotten a better treatment from Obamacare death panels? S6
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#35
(02-19-2013, 05:49 PM)mv Wrote: Any evidence that he could have gotten a better treatment from Obamacare death panels? S6

Not possible because they don't exist...........yet. S5
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#36
I wonder if the Obama death panels will play Beethoven's Sixth Symphony (like in the movie Soylent Green) while they are giving you the bad news
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#37
Either that or Beethoven's Ninth, like in Clockwork Orange.
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#38
Now that Uncle Ugo is history, the thought was to have him preserved for all of posterity. However,.............Hugo Chávez's body won't be embalmed – Venezuelan government.

The 'official' date of death was March 5th, but obviously he died well before that. And that is why his body is a bit too ripe for permanent preservation. Collectivist honesty is part and parcel of the old saying about "being hoisted by one's own petard"? Had they they been honest and forthright, they would have had a fresh body.

Can you think of other reasons for rejecting any form of collectivism?
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#39
(03-18-2013, 11:13 AM)John L Wrote: The 'official' date of death was March 5th, but obviously he died well before that.

Also applies to Stalin, amazingly.Shock
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#40
So we can say Hugo Chavez died at the ripe old age of 58?
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