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Chavez Tightening Grip On Venezuela Further
Jack, its getting ever closer, where he is going to have to make a monumental decision.  Either he dashes to the awaiting jet on the pad, living off the fruit of his ever accumulating stash.   Or he brings in the military to begin 'disappearing' all those leading the opposition against his illusive Socialist Utopian Dream.   He is running out of options.  Spiteful

The greatest tragedy of this entire exercise is that no matter how long the Socialist experiment remains in place, or the ones that follow its failure, there are still countless young geniuses, who will continue to worship at the alter of Collectivism.  

Just remember, you can't fix Stupid.



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JohnL Wrote:Either he dashes to the awaiting jet on the pad, living off the fruit of his ever accumulating stash.   Or he brings in the military to begin 'disappearing' all those leading the opposition against his illusive Socialist Utopian Dream.   He is running out of options.

You can get away with 'disappearing' opponents while things are still functioning fairly normally and while your opponents are finite.  But when things are so collapsed that you can't provide food to anyone other than a shrinking handful of cronies, you're on your way out.  The slum dwellers have not turned on Maduro en mass because he's kept them reasonably satisfied.  Right now NOBODY is satisfied.  Fewer and fewer of his supporters are getting rewarded because there is literally nothing left to reward them.  Eventually the entire country will become "the opposition".  It's a very different situation than say North Korea.  Most Venezuelans can still remember what living in a 'rich' country felt like ... most have a fairly fresh memory of being able to enjoy life's little luxuries ... like food.

One interesting aspect is that as more mass starvation sets in there really hasn't been much talk from the United Nations about a "humanitarian catastrophe". At least not the kind usually heard when some African nation plunges into famine. I'm curious how the global conscience types will try to manage the collapse of a socialist utopia.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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The long lines and bare grocery stores have to be taking a toll on all except the closest insiders at this point. The society down there has collapsed, crime is unbelievable now, no one respects or fears the judicial system, vigilantes have become a thing.

Maduro would be wise to step down and I pray he does for the sake of all the folks down there.
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(06-04-2016, 04:34 PM)Palladin Wrote: Maduro would be wise to step down and I pray he does for the sake of all the folks down there.

It's really worth praying for, but I really can't think of a precedent for a guy like that and his crew ceding power and waking ... maybe running away.

The last sentences of that last article I linked read ...
Quote:A civil upheaval is a real possibility. And when the shooting starts, the people with the guns win.

I'd beg to differ or at least offer that it's a bit more complicated.  I don't think anybody really 'wins' in what is coming.  It comes down to the direction "the guns" are turned.  I doubt that the military can really continue to support a system that offers only famine, shortages, incompetence, corruption and decline ... not for long ... but that doesn't mean "the guns" won't be aimed at the protesters and "the opposition" ... at least initially ... but as indicated, at some point, "the opposition" is likely to include just about the entire nation.  Authoritative collectivism is often bloody when it arrives and is very unlikely to leave quietly.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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No one wins, it will be a pyrrhic victory if the state were to arrest and kill it's way to remain in power.

Even the hard core Maduro supporter has to be wondering at this point.
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The only thing Maduro needs is enough food to last until the next elections.
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(06-06-2016, 03:53 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: The only thing Maduro needs is enough food to last until the next elections.

And that's exactly what he is attempting.

Venezuela announces new plan to tackle food crisis

Quote:The Venezuelan government says it has imported thousands of tons of basic foodstuffs and will begin distributing them through communal councils directly to family homes.

In Caracas the Food Minister, Rodolfo Marco Torres, said 70% of the country's food would be supplied in this way.

The Venezuelan opposition says the new system could discriminate against them.

Note the phrase "communal councils". In other words, the Collectives. Only supporters of Collectivism will receive any of this. The rest of the country can go and suck wind.

The only thing missing now are ampitheatres where sporting events can help placate the masses.

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Even the NYTimes can help but state the obvious:

Venezuelans Ransack Stores as Hunger Grips the Nation

I just thought of something. Why don't we send all of the disgruntled Millennials, who think Socialism is wonderful, to Venezuela in order to learn from the example being set down there? I wonder what their attitude would be like, once they see first hand the wonders of Collectivism?
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There's a lot more than just collectivism ruining Venezuela. The USSR, Sweden never got to this point before they re examined their policies. Britain as well. They were collectivist a hell of a lot longer than Venezuela has been.

You are not considering all factors here. The Maduro side and the anti Maduro side have such contempt for each other that it makes our view of Obama and Hillary look like we're all kumbaya. The entire society has given up, broken down into lawlessness and it will take God to put that place back together even when the socialists leave.

There is collective psychological damage, IMO.
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Oh Lord, I can just see it now.  MacDaddy is going to go on another spending spree just to help cement his legacy.  And all to help prop up Venezuelan Socialism, just so he can put another feather in his hat.    I could be wrong here, but this sure looks like it to me.

Quote:Venezuela 'willing' to restore diplomatic ties with US

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Crisis-hit Venezuela is willing to restore diplomatic relations with the United States after a six-year freeze, the socialist government said Monday.

The foreign ministry's announcement came two weeks after top US diplomat Thomas Shannon met with Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro in a bid to help tackle the country's economic and political crisis.

In a message congratulating the United States on its Independence Day commemoration, the ministry expressed its "willingness to establish respectful bilateral diplomatic relations."

The two countries have not exchanged ambassadors since 2010 due to tensions between Washington and the government of Hugo Chavez, Maduro's mentor and late predecessor.

Like Chavez before him, Maduro has frequently accused Washington of interfering in Venezuela's internal affairs and seeking his overthrow.

And here's just one more reason why I am afraid of the thought. [quote]Venezuela Refuses to Default. Few People Seem to Understand Why.  I hate to think that there is something about to break, which will place us in far more debt than we are already in.  And I will put nothing past this "Manchurian Candidate" in the White House.

Or how about this: Venezuela leader Nicolas Maduro lifts power rationing.  None of this makes logical sense, coming from a Socialist regime on the brink of a major Crash.


Meanwhile in Realville.....

Looters Ransack Caracas Bakery




HAMBRE Y PROTESTAS EN PETARE(HUNGER AND PROTESTS IN PETARE)


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As Venezuela continues to descend into darkness, hordes of citizens are forced to abandon their family members.

Pets are the latest victims of Venezuela's economic crisis
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I saw this picture the other day, and forgot to post it, 'til now. Venezuelans crossing over into Columbia, looking for necessities they cannot find at home.

Ain't Socialism just wonderful? S13
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Here's the latest in the attempt to recall Maduro from power: Venezuela govt seeks to ban opposition over recall 'fraud'.

Quote: The Venezuelan government asked electoral authorities Tuesday to ban the opposition coalition seeking to oust President Nicolas Maduro in a recall vote, accusing them of massive fraud.

Ratcheting up the tension in a country pushed to the brink of collapse by an economic crisis, Maduro's camp hit back with a vengeance on the same day the opposition was hoping to get a green light to go ahead with its bid to hold a recall referendum.

"We have just asked for the cancellation of the registration of the Democratic Unity Roundtable (MUD), for being involved in the worst vote fraud in the country's history," said Jorge Rodriguez, Maduro's designated aide to monitor the recall process.

He accused the opposition of including the names of thousands of dead people, convicts and minors in a petition submitted in May with 1.8 million signatures requesting a recall vote.

The opposition has denied such charges, accusing the authorities of stalling.

Tuesday was the final day for the National Electoral Council (CNE) to rule whether the opposition successfully collected at least 200,000 valid signatures, the first stage of the long and winding recall procedures.

Near the end of the day, the CNE said it would only meet Monday to examine its auditors' report on the petition.

Something tells me that this is going to be an armed rebellion, provided the citizenry can locate enough arm to defend themselves. Spiteful
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Interesting Perspective ...

"The Obama aministration could record its most momentous achievement in the Americas merely by counseling Maduro to weigh his options."

I don't think Obama is remotely capable of this.  It would indeed be momentous to save people from unrest, violence, starvation and death ... but I think in our President's eyes, these folks will be martyrs to a cause ... and that he must not interfere with that ... very sad.
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(07-30-2016, 12:36 AM)mr_yak Wrote: Interesting Perspective ...

"The Obama aministration could record its most momentous achievement in the Americas merely by counseling Maduro to weigh his options."

I don't think Obama is remotely capable of this.  It would indeed be momentous to save people from unrest, violence, starvation and death ... but I think in our President's eyes, these folks will be martyrs to a cause ... and that he must not interfere with that ... very sad.

I just finished the article, and I now know why the power-brokers are dragging their feet.  And it makes sense, but must be defeated.

Quote:The chavista loyalists who run the electoral council know that, if they manage to delay the referendum until Jan. 10, a popular vote would legally remove Maduro but leave the Socialist Party vice president to complete the term. On Tuesday, the council postponed an announcement on whether the opposition had collected enough signatures to initiate the process, despite an internal audit showing they had exceeded that target.

Chavista politicians are accustomed to imposing their will on the opposition. But those days may be over. Last December, defense chief Padrino López thwarted attempts by government hardliners to overturn the opposition’s legislative landslide. The general must realize that denying a popular vote now, particularly as the humanitarian crisis deepens, risks provoking a deadly confrontation between his troops and desperate Venezuelans.
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Venezuela, Crisis Worsens




Venezuela: On the Edge (Part 1) - People & Power




Venezuela: On the Edge (Part 2) - People & Power


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Yet it can afford to send 87 competitors to the Rio Olympics.
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(08-05-2016, 10:42 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: Yet it can afford to send 87 competitors to the Rio Olympics.

I wonder if there will be any defections as a result?
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(08-05-2016, 10:53 PM)John L Wrote:
(08-05-2016, 10:42 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: Yet it can afford to send 87 competitors to the Rio Olympics.

I wonder if there will be any defections as a result?

He's probably holding their families hostage.
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And the problems just keep adding up: Hungry Venezuelans break into zoo and butcher animal for meat.

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Quote:Venezuela’s worsening food shortages had tragic consequences for a rare show horse last weekend, when a group of intruders broke into the zoo, pulled the black stallion from its cage, then slaughtered it for meat.

Prosecutors say the crime occurred in the small hours of Sunday morning at Caracas’ Caricuao Zoo, when “several people” sneaked into the state-run park under the cover of darkness and busted into the stallion’s pen. The horse, the only one of its kind in the zoo, was then led to a more secluded area and butchered on the spot. Only its head and ribs were left behind in a gruesome pile for zookeepers to find after sunrise.

Sadly, this horse wasn’t the first zoo animal to suffer the effects of Venezuela’s crippling food shortages. Some Vietnamese pigs and sheep were reportedly stolen from the same zoo earlier this month.
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