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Gore: Polluters Manipulate Climate Info
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Well now isn't this the pot calling the kettle black!

Gore: Polluters Manipulate Climate Info

By GILLIAN WONG

Quote:SINGAPORE (AP) - Research aimed at disputing the scientific consensus on global warming is part of a huge public misinformation campaign funded by some of the world's largest carbon polluters, former Vice President Al Gore said Tuesday.

"There has been an organized campaign, financed to the tune of about $10 million a year from some of the largest carbon polluters, to create the impression that there is disagreement in the scientific community," Gore said at a forum in Singapore. "In actuality, there is very little disagreement."

Gore likened the campaign to the millions of dollars spent by U.S. tobacco companies years ago on creating the appearance of scientific debate on smoking's harmful effects.

"This is one of the strongest of scientific consensus views in the history of science," Gore said. "We live in a world where what used to be called propaganda now has a major role to play in shaping public opinion."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070807/D8QS3JEO0.html
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#2
I wonder if according to Reagan's effect some trickles trough to John and scpg02, or is it pure pro-bono work? :lol:
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Isn't 'manipulation' supposed to imply some degree competency?
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#4
You'd think Gore would respond to the latest misinformation from NASA that he originally used to bolster his arguments.
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WmLambert Wrote:You'd think Gore would respond to the latest misinformation from NASA that he originally used to bolster his arguments.

Shhh they want that to go unnoticed.
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scpg02 Wrote:
WmLambert Wrote:You'd think Gore would respond to the latest misinformation from NASA that he originally used to bolster his arguments.

Shhh they want that to go unnoticed.

All that matters to the RealClimate guys is that they get out their own spin.
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that's exactly where the debate on AGW is now, the battle of the spin machines. Science loses in the end.
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Quote:"There has been an organized campaign, financed to the tune of about $10 million a year from some of the largest carbon polluters, to create the impression that there is disagreement in the scientific community," Gore said at a forum in Singapore. "In actuality, there is very little disagreement."


Wow 10 million :roll: With that kind of money the government could probably build 10 outhouses http://www.jldr.com/oh1mill.html

Of course we can always count on the news to give us as little information as possible. For example, just how much do major companies spend on research in climate change. Is their any proof of them changing statistics or are we functioning by the "only the government is objective rule"? How many people make money of the govenrment spending money off of climate change, and if so how would we find out?
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Lithium -

http://www.mises.org/story/2571

I Was On the Global Warming Gravy Train
By David Evans
Posted on 5/28/2007

Quote:This evidence was not conclusive, but why wait until we are absolutely certain when we apparently need to act now? So the idea that carbon emissions were causing global warming passed from the scientific community into the political realm. Research increased, bureaucracies were formed, international committees met, and eventually the Kyoto protocol was signed in 1997 to curb carbon emissions.

The political realm in turn fed money back into the scientific community. By the late 1990s, lots of jobs depended on the idea that carbon emissions caused global warming. Many of them were bureaucratic, but there were a lot of science jobs created too.

I was on that gravy train, making a high wage in a science job that would not have existed if we didn't believe carbon emissions caused global warming. And so were lots of people around me; there were international conferences full of such people. We had political support, the ear of government, big budgets. We felt fairly important and useful (I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet!
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Great article SP!
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Thanks.
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
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Wonder what Al thinks about Ireland's weather? This article is about morality,but check out what it says about Ireland's weather patterns:

HERE
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Yeah, it's all about marketing,.........................themselves, that is. S6
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