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Gorbachev Slams American Empire
#41
Palladin Wrote:Green,

I think if you look at a map,you might realize an ABM radar in Poland or Czech land doesn't QUITE wrap around Russia.

If you Russki placed ABMs in Mexico,we might knock the snot out of Mexico for it,but we sure as hell wouldn't arm Islamic Neo Nazis like you boneheaded Russians. Your response shows how vacuous your character is over there.
Your lack of knowledge and respect is just a continuation of your bullish character, common trait of all Yanks.
But we will not forgive you when you mess up in Iraq enough and ask for help.
Tell me, please, what the hell ABM radar does in Lithuania?
Only idiot like you or John cannot see the true target of all these preparations.
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#42
Green Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:Green,

I think if you look at a map,you might realize an ABM radar in Poland or Czech land doesn't QUITE wrap around Russia.

If you Russki placed ABMs in Mexico,we might knock the snot out of Mexico for it,but we sure as hell wouldn't arm Islamic Neo Nazis like you boneheaded Russians. Your response shows how vacuous your character is over there.
Your lack of knowledge and respect is just a continuation of your bullish character, common trait of all Yanks.
But we will not forgive you when you mess up in Iraq enough and ask for help.
Tell me, please, what the hell ABM radar does in Lithuania?
Only idiot like you or John cannot see the true target of all these preparations.

Oh, get real. If that were true, which it isn't, the evil US would have taken you out in the early 90s, when you were in total dissaray. Paranoia know no bounds amongst Russians. It is obviously built within the Russian gene pool by now.

And as for begging help, let's see what happens when PRC finally gets off it's arse and starts accumulating your Siberian assets. And you, of all folk, should be more than worried, since you only live a few miles from the PRC border.
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#43
"Don't be afraid of us, peace-loving Yanks, be afraid of Chinks instead." -is it all your brain could produce to my constructive remark?!
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#44
Green Wrote:"Don't be afraid of us, peace-loving Yanks, be afraid of Chinks instead." -is it all your brain could produce to my constructive remark?!

:lol: :lol: Whatever.
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#45
The only good thing we can milk from America is that you won't hinder our claim on North Pole. S6

Convention on the Law of the Sea is ratified by all Arctic nations, except the US. S6
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#46
Green,

Seems you think it is rude to speak honestly about your nation. First,you choose the communist experiment,then side with Hitler,now you side with a protege of Hitler's within Islam while your own youngsters get killed by them in the Caucasus. In between,your people revere Joe Stalin.

I'd be embarrassed,too. It isn't rude to speak truthfully though.
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#47
Green,

Two thoughts on that notion ...

1. Are you really comfortable with your nation's history of environmental stewardship with regards to developing one of the last few pristine places on/under the earth? In other words ... no foolish ANWARs for the Russians eh?

2. What are the odds that you'll again sucker some company like Kerr-McGee to help out only to pull another Sakhalin-2 on them?

You do realize the irony here in the folks that stand to be the most vehemently opposed and take the greatest offense to your latest little real estate scheme are also the ones who would scream bloody murder and absolutely oppose a ...

Quote:U.S attempt to divide the resources by means of force ...
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#48
Palladin Wrote:Green,

Seems you think it is rude to speak honestly about your nation. First,you choose the communist experiment,then side with Hitler,now you side with a protege of Hitler's within Islam while your own youngsters get killed by them in the Caucasus. In between,your people revere Joe Stalin.

I'd be embarrassed,too. It isn't rude to speak truthfully though.
Why don't you simply admit the fact that many people under Stalin became healthier, wealthier, more literal and eventually happier?
One of the positive sides of authoritative regimes is their capability to mobilize people into one command and solve problem in a short period of time.
To say Iran is a Hitlerian regime is really a stretch. Can you find similarities between two? I can't.
And there is no evidence that Iran provides terrorism in Russia.
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#49
Patrick, Yakster, you are wasting your time here. Green has changed from an optimistic fellow, to the typical fatalistic stereotypical Russian of old. Obviously he is victim of the change in press under the rise of the new Fascist Russia. I have seen it happen before my very eyes.

And it's a total shame too. The key giveaway is the "It's everyone else's fault for our problems". Or better yet, it's the US's fault, for butting in and taking control of things that we have no business controling. I have yet to see the What yet, but perhaps this too will be presented. Right now, it is general in nature.
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#50
mr_yak Wrote:Green,

Two thoughts on that notion ...

1. Are you really comfortable with your nation's history of environmental stewardship with regards to developing one of the last few pristine places on/under the earth? In other words ... no foolish ANWARs for the Russians eh?
First we must investigate what is the value of this place from ecologic point of view. Then we create an ANWAR or two. :roll:

Quote:2. What are the odds that you'll again sucker some company like Kerr-McGee to help out only to pull another Sakhalin-2 on them?
What makes you think BP was suckered? BP continues to work with Gazprom and Russia. They made a good deal. Did anybody from BP express any grievance officially?

Quote:You do realize the irony here in the folks that stand to be the most vehemently opposed and take the greatest offense to your latest little real estate scheme are also the ones who would scream bloody murder and absolutely oppose a ...

Quote: U.S attempt to divide the resources by means of force ...
Well, maybe the article was a little emotional... :lol:
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#51
John L Wrote:Obviously he is victim of the change in press under the rise of the new Fascist Russia. I have seen it happen before my very eyes.
John, you have told you were sixty something years old. Tell me a story how you saw Hitler shaking your mom's hand in response to a bunch of flowers.
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#52
Read wikipedia, it's very interesting how Unated Nation is useful sometimes. Wink1
The term United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), also called the Law of the Sea Convention; referred to by its opponents as the Law of the Sea Treaty, or (LOST) :lol: refers to the international agreement that resulted from the third United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea...
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#53
Green Wrote:What makes you think BP was suckered? BP continues to work with Gazprom and Russia. They made a good deal. Did anybody from BP express any grievance officially?

Why are you bringing up BP when it was RDS along with the Koreans and Japanese that you economically sodomized in that deal?


Green Wrote:
Quote: U.S attempt to divide the resources by means of force ...
Well, maybe the article was a little emotional... :lol:

The 'force' involved is likely to be economic ... although given your nation's position, it will be interesting to see how that pans out. You're not really making any friends with this kind of old school crap are you?

Quote:"This isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory'," Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told CTV television.

Good luck with those Russian ANWARs. Wink1
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#54
Green and John L,

Green brought up a valid point. Stalin did manage to force Russia into an industrial power. No question there.

Anyway, let's give the boss some credit. He somehow led Russia into an industrial power.

Now,the question would be why? Did he do it to lift the standards of living so Russia would become a modernized state and the average Russki could enjoy life more?
I think he did it to spread his authority myself,so if I were a Russian,knowing what is known about the works of the man,I would see him as I see Hitler. In fact,we Americans do see him that way.

Germans,thankfully,do NOT give consideration to Hitler's modernizing THEIR economy,which he most certainly did do. Germans see him for what he was,a murderous tyrant all Germans are ashamed of.

Yet,Russians revere Stalin,both men built up their nation's assets for the same reason,to make a play at ruling the world w/o asking anyone's opinion BUT the home folks.

Now,any objective human has to ask WHY Russki and the Hun reacted differently to what are really 2 of the top 5 monsters with 2 legs in human history????

I've offended Green and he has reacted in anger,what I did was simply point out a handful of Russian historical acts. Russians have suffered since the Mongol invasions and there are reasons for it.

I'm off the topic now.
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#55
Palladin Wrote:Now,any objective human has to ask WHY Russki and the Hun reacted differently to what are really 2 of the top 5 monsters with 2 legs in human history????

Uncle Joe was one of the winners: Adolf was the loser. It's that simple.
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#56
Green Wrote:The only good thing we can milk from America is that you won't hinder our claim on North Pole. S6

Convention on the Law of the Sea is ratified by all Arctic nations, except the US. S6

Canada has objected, and may clean Russia's clock on this matter.
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#57
Isn't posession 9/10 of the law? And how are you going to posess something that you cannot stand upon? Sounds like a show of grandstanding, in hopes of establishing a claim in the future.
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#58
Palladin, why did you decide I was "offenced"?
I was trying to be on par with your rude tone you had picked first.

And I don't agree with those who state that Russians must blame themselves and repent like Germans. I don't share such thing like "collective responsibility".

There were people in the USSR, who were victims, Russian victims, there were people who were executioners, there were people who didn't belong to neither first, nor second category and they were majority.

To think otherwise is fascism, because you blame the WHOLE nation for the crimes of SOME. It's stupid.

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#59
Green,

I was never rude to you,I never called you a gratuitous name,I never stated one thing that is not historical truth,it just makes you upset that I pointed out embarrassing things about your recent past and chided you for assuming our role in Germany is morally equivalent to Joe Stalin's one in Europe. I respect your intellect and you are probably smarter than I am.

To the point you just raised. While you appear not to be,I am a believer in Jesus of Biblical fame as The Messiah. I also am a believer in The Bible as God's Word to mankind. A doctrine it teaches about rulers of nations is that rulers are assigned to nations by GOD Himself(however good or evil) based on the level of national VIRTUE He finds within the nation.

Examples of this can be where Israel had both King Saul and King David. Saul led Israel as a man w/o virtue,David as a man of much virtue. This means the people collectively had the levels of virtue necessary to cause God to place the respective men in their seats of power.

This does NOT mean there are not individuals of virtue or not in each case,but collectively the die is cast.

That's my personal paradigm,it may be no one else here agrees with me and I could care less if they do or do not. It is no accident you Russki had a murderous gangster as your leader and it is no accident today your leader is arming militant Islam while militant Islam is murdering your own children in Checnya with Russian fabricated weaponry.

As far as me being rude,I'd like you to re-post where I was. Rude is disrespect,I simply stated facts you did not bother countering,am I right or am I wrong about them?

So far as me being too much an idiot to know why we want ABM sites on your western borders,I know why we want them. Your attitude is why,we are tied to NATO and we and they want protection from you Russians,your missles are a threat to them as well as us.

On a less argumentative aside,here is a learned debate about Stalin's war leadership:

HERE
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#60
Quote:Oh, get real. If that were true, which it isn't, the evil US would have taken you out in the early 90s, when you were in total dissaray. Paranoia know no bounds amongst Russians. It is obviously built within the Russian gene pool by now.
Because the Russian 25,000+ nukes have been in mint conditions all the time? John, I suggest you take a trip down memory lane discovering your own paranoia, starting by defending America in Laos' jungles. Did not yourself unmask the lies you helped to spread for decades about the military capabilities and strategies of the communists, down there in the 'Military Resources' folder? Do you not spread manure about the so called Islamic terror and Muslims in general on a daily basis? Actually, I don't think you suffer from that mental disorder, but you laugh about anybody who believed or believes in these lies.
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