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Warming may bring hurricanes to Mediterranean
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Since this is politics, more than science, I am not going to put it in the Science Section.

Keep in mind that Yellowstone Could go ballistic tomorrow, as a Super Volcano, and destroy the US and wreck the world economy. Also keep in mind that tomorrow the west face of Cumbre Vieja, on the island of La Palma, Canary Islands, Could fall off into the ocean, causing a Mega-tsunami, killing millions.

Are you hyperventilating over these threats yet?

Ahh, the Plausable Deniability the MSM weaveth


Quote:Warming may bring hurricanes to Mediterranean
Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:53AM EDT

By Ben Hirschler

LONDON (Reuters) - Global warming could trigger hurricanes, or tropical cyclones, over the Mediterranean sea, threatening one of the world's most densely populated coastal regions, according to European scientists.

Hurricanes currently form out in the tropical Atlantic and rarely reach Europe, but a new study shows a 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) rise in average temperatures could set them off in the enclosed Mediterranean in future.

"This is the first study to detect this possibility," lead researcher Miguel Angel Gaertner of the University of Castilla-La Mancha in Toledo, Spain, told Reuters on Monday.

"Most models in our study show increasing storm intensity and if you combine this with rising sea levels, as are projected, this could be damaging for many coastal settlements."

As well as being home to millions, the Mediterranean coast is also a major centre of tourism, which would be under threat.

Factors influencing hurricanes include warm sea surface temperatures and atmospheric instability. In the past, they have been confined to a limited number of regions, such as the north Atlantic and north Pacific, where they are known as typhoons.

Recently, however, they have been forming in unusual places, which Gaertner sees as a clear danger signal.

In 2004, Hurricane Catarina formed in the south Atlantic and hit land in southern Brazil. A year later, Hurricane Vince formed next to the Madeira Islands and became the first to make landfall in Spain.

In a paper published in the American Geophysical Union Journal, Gaertner and colleagues from the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, Germany, used a range of regional climate models to assess the chance of similar events in the Mediterranean.

They found rising temperatures pointed to increasing storm intensity and, in the case of the most sensitive computer model, a likelihood of strong hurricanes.

Gaertner said a large number of uncertainties remained and it was not yet possible to say which parts of the Mediterranean would be hardest hit. He also believes there is time to avoid the worst-case scenario by working to limit global warming.

"This is a big threat but I think we have time to avoid it, if we cut emissions of greenhouse gases," Gaertner said.

A United Nations climate panel, drawing on the work of 2,500 scientists, said this year that the "best estimate" was that temperatures would rise 1.8-4.0 Celsius this century.

Most experts say emissions of greenhouse gases, mainly from burning fossil fuels in power plants, factories and cars, are the principal reason for rising temperatures.
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Quote:"Most models in our study show increasing storm intensity and if you combine this with rising sea levels, as are projected, this could be damaging for many coastal settlements."

I have a hard time taking computer modeling serious.
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#3
New Orleans envy?

I'll start to worry when the Baltic Sea is predicted to be hit by hurricanes.
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scpg02 Wrote:
Quote:"Most models in our study show increasing storm intensity and if you combine this with rising sea levels, as are projected, this could be damaging for many coastal settlements."

I have a hard time taking computer modeling serious.
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Well... Actually you need no computer model for that. It is quite sufficient with common sense. Namely that warmer surface waters in the Atlantic will make hurricanes go farther and possibly make landfall in Portugal/Spain. Or even UK. Not to mention that tornadoes, now only known to exist in the US, might become more frequent in Central Europe due to rising temperatures.

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No idea what you are talking about. European windstorms (Orcans) have always been around, and cause damage second only to your hurricanes. The last one, Kyrill in January 2007, would have qualified as a category 4 hurricane, and that 1,500 km from the shores of the Atlantic. Wind speed over 210 kph in Czech Republic, and 225 kph in the Swiss Alps. Katrina wasn't that furious over land. Who believes the Baltic Sea is a romantic lake, is also mistaken.
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#6
The reason why this article is so,.......................lame, is because it leaves out some important facts of science/physics, which is not unusual. It is 'dogma' that runs the AGW crowd, and science must take second violin to it.

What I am talking about is the mass and rotation of the planet. The northern and southern hemisphere has it's wind and oceanic currents, because the earth rotates and this rotation has relation to mass, of which water and air has mass. Ocean currents move a certain direction near the equator, because the twist of the planet causes the fluid mass of water to move in certain directions. That is why sailing ships learned early on where they could catch currents and arrive at the New World quckly, and 'verse visa' returning to Europe. These currents will not change, but they will move northward as the planet warms. This means that the water and air currents coming from the Sahara will come from slightly northern elevations, and they will move westward, not northward into Europe. If anything the moisture garnered from the Mediterranean will help generate a westward moving air mass into hurricane status BEFORE reaching North America, thus aiding in it's move north at an earlier point.

Hurricanes from the Gulf of Mexico will be rare, and Atlantic hurricanes will origionate at a more northern position, meaning that they will turn northward, along the Atlantic coast, further up. this will cause more danger for Bermuda, but not the Southeast Coast of the US. New Yawkers should beware though. Wink1

This whole thing here is simply another means to scare the unwitting masses, in hopes of helping turn the public opinion about AGW. It will not work, of course, because the ones likely to believe all this tripe, are already believing it. In reality, only ships at sea will have to worry about this change in hurricane location, because most of it will occur at sea.
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quadrat Wrote:No idea what you are talking about. European windstorms (Orcans) have always been around, and cause damage second only to your hurricanes. The last one, Kyrill in January 2007, would have qualified as a category 4 hurricane, and that 1,500 km from the shores of the Atlantic. Wind speed over 210 kph in Czech Republic, and 225 kph in the Swiss Alps. Katrina wasn't that furious over land. Who believes the Baltic Sea is a romantic lake, is also mistaken.
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Yes. But 'hurricanes', 'typhoons' and 'cyclones' are the names for tropical low pressures of more intensity than a 'tropical storm' and generated in Atlantic (hurricanes), Pacific Ocean (typhoons) and Indian Ocean (cyclones).

A 'hurricane' can also slowly transform in a low that reaches Europe as an autumn storm. And a winter storm can also gain enough strength to equal a Cat. 4 hurricane or typhoon, but it is not a hurricane for that. More about the differences between a hurricane and a winter storm in Europe can be read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane

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