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Co-founder of Greenpeace endorses Nuclear Power.
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Patrick More in NY Post Wrote:AS co-founder and former leader of Greenpeace, I once opposed nuclear energy. But times have changed, and new facts of compelling importance have emerged - and so my views have changed as well, as have those of a growing number of respected, independent environmentalists around the world.

There are few places where nuclear power makes as much sense or is as important as in New York. Indeed, the state is a microcosm of the challenges America and the world face to have ample, clean and reasonably priced electricity. As such, I strongly support renewal of the license for the Indian Point nuclear plants in Westchester, which provides 30 percent or so of the electricity used in the New York metro area.
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That some saner environmentalists will go nuclear was expected, but GreenPeace? Wow.
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Actually, Patrick Moore has been a big fan of nuclear energy, for several years now. Here is his statement before Congress in 2005.

He is also a HUGE fan of clearcutting, as well. Unlike the Eco-Kooks, he actually realizes the benefits of clearcutting, and how it rejuvinates the environment.
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:oops: you are clearly ahead of me on this fellah. OK, good for him.
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mv Wrote::oops: you are clearly ahead of me on this fellah. OK, good for him.

I've been on to him for several years now: he's a good guy. If you go and check out his photo section, you will get a good feel as to how much he likes the practice of clearcutting.
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Like I said in another thread, buy nuclear energy stock now!
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Like I said in another thread, I'm becoming more of a fan of nuclear energy, especially if it costs less than 29 trillion dollars to reprocess the used fuel and re-use it for fuel again, if it would cost 99 trillion dollars to extract and refine the deposits of shale, etc.
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What would we need nuclear plants for, if global warming, according to the right-wing kooks, doesn't exist?
Dr. Moore was sacked by Greenpeace in 1986. Afterwards, he turned prostitute. Dr. Moore will propose anything he's paid for. Previously, nuclear energy, genmanipulated food, and he praised the USA for not ratifying Kyoto. Nothing against nuclear energy, but we should not have such whore in the boat.
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quadrat Wrote:What would we need nuclear plants for, if global warming, according to the right-wing kooks, doesn't exist?
Dr. Moore was sacked by Greenpeace in 1986. Afterwards, he turned prostitute. Dr. Moore will propose anything he's paid for. Previously, nuclear energy, genmanipulated food, and he praised the USA for not ratifying Kyoto. Nothing against nuclear energy, but we should not have such whore in the boat.
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Well. There are a few good environmentalists, like me and Dr. Moore, who realize that nuclear energy can provide the cheap and clean electricity needed to curb smog in urban areas as well as reducing CO2 emissions.

Wind power and other stuff are good but they can not contribute significantly to the energy balance. It takes 10-20 years before a wind mill generates the energy needed to construct it.

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Greenpeace is not very environmentally friendly these days.

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Is it just me or is there a parallel there to the Taliban taking mortars to ancient Buddhist monuments to make their point?

It's been pressed elsewhere, but the horrible shame here is that if all the money thrown at sexy renewable PV an windmill projects and bankrupt companies, could have been thrown at the next generation of cleaner more efficient reactors. There is only a pittance of gov. money going into this sort of R&D for fusion etc ...
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Looks to me that Greenpeace has trouble chewing gum and walking at the same time. Preserving species(former) and eliminating pollution, i.e. their own(later), are just a tab beyond their ability to pursue. S13 S18

On second thought, are we sure this is not some form of "Photoshopping" of an image? It looks just too perfect to be real.
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It's not photoshopped, here's a better link that has a video of how it was done.
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(12-11-2014, 06:45 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: It's not photoshopped, here's a better link that has a video of how it was done.

For some reason, all my life since first seeing an aerial photograph of the site, I assumed it to be much larger than it really is. So the letters appeared in my mind to be huge, and caused me to overlook the actual people standing in the picture above.

Interesting. And yes, those idiots should indeed be prosecuted. And if Greenpeace doesn't oblige, they should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting. Those Idiots, they think they have every right to forget that tiny thing called the Rule of Law. Gah
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Looks to me that the day of Renewable Energy is coming to an end. At one time, Greenpeace and other Environmental Leftists seemed to be making significant headway in the war on nuclear power and hydrocarbons. But over time it is dawning on an ever growing percentage of us, who realize the dead end it is presenting. Add to all this the negative impact to the environment, this is even more apparent. Solar panels take up too much area, and endanger the wildlife living there. Wind turbines also take up space, but manage to kill off huge numbers of birds.

Naturally, there is really only one practical solution: nuclear power. I've known this all along, just as almost all of you have as well. Well, now the intellectuals are finally getting the message. And here is one such person, who has changed his mind, over time.

Why renewables can’t save the planet | Michael Shellenberger | TEDxDanubia


I'm not sure how much longer it will take before the energy industry wakes up and begins working on building 3rd and future 4th generation nuclear power plants.
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Of course, intellectuals getting the message doesn't mean they will calmly sit back and accept it. Look at Al Gore. His wealth once came from tobacco. Now it is all Green Energy. Gorbachev left Russia to run the UN office of greater green. Bureaucrats lie about science and threaten real scientists.

No. them getting the message doesn't mean they will get it right.
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Eventually, the planet is going to have to turn to nuclear power. There's no other way to keep up with technology. Maybe huge solar panels in orbit, beaming down to earth sites, but that's still far off, and not as practical as modern nuclear power.
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