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Time to engage Syria?
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http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20...-7938r.htm

Quote:While we undertook regime change in Iraq by invading it, the U.S. cannot take similar action in every country it dislikes. However, there is good reason to believe recent U.S. policy toward Syria actually has driven it closer to Iran and Hezbollah.
This was no more apparent than just prior to U.S. action in Iraq in March 2003. Months prior to that , the Syrians sought to open a back channel with policymakers in the defense secretary's office. The request came through my office.
In exchange, the Syrians requested U.S. assistance in economic infrastructure development. The Syrians even offered to stage U.S. troops to go into Iraq to look for weapons of mass destruction (WMD) as an unconditional basis to avoid a U.S. attack. Those offers were turned down.
By offering a back channel, the Syrians suggested there was information that would be shared with the United States that it would not provide publicly. Indeed, the Syrians were asked whether Iraqi WMD had been sent to Syria prior to U.S. action.
The response, from no less than one of Syrian President Bashar Assad's top advisers, was that publicly Syria would deny their existence in Syria. However, if the back channel were created, "There would be a lot we could talk about."
Sources with direct access to the Syrians say elements among them seek reform and are pro-American. The offer of a back channel suggested such a prospect.
However, the Bush administration never followed up on the offer. Instead, then Secretary of State Colin Powell in May 2003 visited Syria and publicly confronted and admonished Mr. Assad. Mr. Powell accused Syria of harboring Saddam Hussein's escaped leadership and Iraq's WMD.
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#2
Syria is not a country I would want to open back channels with under its present leadership.....period.

Syria will go where some money is. It is a very poor country. The communists dropped money and armaments on them to keep the mid-east stirred up, now Iran does the same thing.

The Syrian leadership is so crooked they put their pants on with corkscrews. lol
Ken
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#3
I agree with Ken that Syria is a state run by a gang of thugs like Iraq was(and the USSR bluntly),but I disagree concerning diplomacy. If it works,fine.

I just don't think without coercion it will.
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#4
Palladin Wrote:I agree with Ken that Syria is a state run by a gang of thugs like Iraq was...
Was? S2 Are you shure todays Iraq govenment isn't? Or Arafat&Co weren't?
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bh Wrote:
Palladin Wrote:I agree with Ken that Syria is a state run by a gang of thugs like Iraq was...
Was? S2 Are you shure todays Iraq govenment isn't? Or Arafat&Co weren't?
There are good and bad elements in the current Iraq govt. We can only hope the course the govt eventually takes is generally the right track. Being any more heavy-handed would make all those who accuse the US of "imperialism" accurate. And we certainly dont want to give these types any basis in fact on which to vindicate their outrageous assertions.

And regarding Syria, I rather like (US Army, retired) Col. David Hunt's suggested course of action regarding them: (paraphrased) "we send a delegation to Damascus to speak directly to Assad. Then, while showing him a video of an assortment of our most effective weaponry, we make it known to him and his inner circle that we will not put up with any more 'shenanigans' that are against the interests of the US, be it in Iraq or elsewhere, immediately followed by a very low and loud fly-over by a formation of US warplanes".

Now I am not sure how problematic it would be to pull off the actual fly-over without shots being fired by the Syrian air defenses to prevent a violation of their airspace, or by us to suppress the air defenses to permit such a demonstration. But since Col. Hunt usually doesnt merely say things merely for the sake of "blowing smoke", so maybe there is a way to pull this off safely? Maybe by using some F-117 Nighthawks (stealth fighter-bombers), even if we had to schedule the meeting for after nightfall for added visual safety? Wink1
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#6
BH,

I would agree most of Iraq's government are thugs. It seems there isn't much there but that type of human.
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Palladin Wrote:BH,
I would agree most of Iraq's government are thugs. It seems there isn't much there but that type of human.
I can say the same about russian allies like Kadyrov and albanian allies of EU and US... It would be long list.
So returning to begining - if some problem can be solved in diplomatic way, it must be solved in this way... We always must try... Some bastards are thugs for us, but they are ... adorable thugs for local population.
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#8
BH,

I'm all for settling differences via diplomacy,but differences leading to my death are non negotiable. I prefer killing first if that is my only alternative and that's how we see these radical Muslims right now.

Doesn't matter which battlefield they're in,Iraq,Afghan or wherever
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#9
Rice wants other nations to put sanctions on Syria

...engaging indeed...

(Sanctioning Syria at this time is probably mostly to counter Iran)
Government is necessary because people left unchecked will do evil.

The government is composed of people left unchecked


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#10
And Russia sent stroybat to Lebanon... S2
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