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Giant Ice Ball Falls From The Sky
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This is quite interesting. It appears that a huge ice ball has fallen out of the sky in Africa, and it is not the first time this has been recorded.

Quote:Sandton ice ball fell out of clear sky, says scientist

July 08, 2006 Edition 1

Karyn Maughan

The giant ice ball that fell from the Douglasdale sky has put the suburb on the meteorological map.

Research conducted by a Nasa- affiliated scientist suggests that the frozen object that plummeted from the clear sky last Friday morning was one of the first "megacryometeors" to be recorded in Africa.

And Professor Jesus Martinez-Frias, head of the Planetary Geology Laboratory at the Centro de Astrobiología in Madrid, has warned that the microwave oven-sized ice object could be a portent of "serious environmental problems".

Frias is an authority in the megacryometeor phenomenon, having written a number of research papers on possible reasons for its development. According to his research, falling ice balls have been recorded since the 19th century.

And, six years ago, a plague of falling ice balls caused extensive damage to cars and an industrial storage facility in the Iberian Peninsula.

Fortunately, Africa's first recorded ice ball was far less destructive, melting almost immediately after it shattered on its pavement landing area.

Frias agreed with security guard Sizwe Sofika, who witnessed the frozen object plummet from the sky, that the ice ball was not frozen human waste ejected from a plane.

Sofika and guard S'Wester Moya were sitting in a security booth outside the Fontana de la Vita complex when they saw a white object plunge from the sky.

The impact of the ice ball's fall created a small crater on the pavement, which was covered with pieces of broken ice.

"Megacryometeors are not the classical big hailstones, ice from aircraft (waste water or tank leakage), nor the simple result of icing processes at high altitudes," Frias said.

"The term 'megacryometeor' was recently coined to name large atmospheric ice conglomerations, which, despite sharing many textural, hydrochemical and isotopic features detected in large hailstones, are formed under clear-sky conditions," he said.

The most puzzling thing is that the ice balls were so huge, and are not a result of frozen waste. With this in mind, it is most unlikely that they could have been created in the atmosphere, since their mass and weight would never allow them to remain airborne long enought to be created.

The first thought that comes to mind with me is that this must be the result of small comets.

Here is a symposium speech by Dr Louis A Frank, Small Comets and Our Origin, which completely explains his theory. Needles to say, this theory is under hot dispute and any new theory will upset established ideas, thus causing controversary. Regardless of the frequency of small comet bombardment, we know that this happens. Here is a picture of one entering the earth's atmosphere.


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Quote:...INCOMING OBJECT IMAGE: This image, taken by the Visible Imaging System (VIS) on NASA’s Polar spacecraft in ultraviolet light, contains the trail of an object over the Atlantic Ocean and Western Europe on Sept. 26, 1996. The object was in sunlight but the Earth below was in darkness, so a map of the Earth has been superposed onto the image as a frame of reference. According to Dr. Louis A. Frank of the University of Iowa, the instrument’s principal investigator, this time lapse image with a duration of 54 seconds shows a small comet the size of a two-bedroom house that disrupted 5,000 to 15,000 miles above the Earth. The Polar spacecraft was launched on Feb. 24, 1996, and is managed by the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. (Photo credit Goddard and the University of Iowa.)

Most will not be interested in this little tidbit of science, but it is quite intriguing and could lead to further confirmation that the earth is indeed bombarded by small comets consisting exclusively of water. And further, they may not all disintergrate in the upper atmosphere as Dr Frank suggests. Some may be hard and retain their bulk even once falling through the lower atmosphere as well.
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Normally something, such as this, would go in the Global Warming Skeptics thread, and under the "Irony" part. But since I have already talked about this happening in the past year or so, I put it here, most likely where it belongs.

What is amazing is that when there is something that is not typical and without logical clinical explanation, it tends to be put in the latest Kook craze, IE AGW. And anyone, such as the professor in the article, should have his 'tenure' reconsidered.


Quote:Falling Ice Chunks a Mystery in Iowa Town

Friday , July 27, 2007


DUBUQUE, Iowa —
Large chunks of ice, one of them reportedly about 50 pounds, fell from the sky Thursday in this northeast Iowa city, smashing through a woman's roof and tearing through nearby trees.

Authorities are unsure of the ice's origin but have theorized the chunks either fell from an airplane or naturally accumulated high in the atmosphere — both rare occurrences.

"It sounded like a bomb!" said 78-year-old Jan Kenkel, who was standing in her kitchen when an ice chunk crashed through her roof at about 5:30 a.m. "I jumped about a foot!"

She traced the damage to her television room, where she found a messy pile of insulation, bits of ceiling, splintered wood and about 50 pounds of solid ice.

At about the same time Thursday morning, Karle and Mary Beth Wigginton heard a loud "whoosh" coming through the trees. The couple, who live one street away from Kenkel, discovered several large chunks of ice in front of their home and some smaller ones in the yard and in the street.

"I could see where branches were shredded, which told me it was definitely coming out of the sky," Karle Wigginton said.

He estimated the original chunk of ice was the size of a basketball. "It was pure white," he said. "The main parts I picked up were very smooth."

Elizabeth Cory, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said investigators will contact Kenkel to try to determine the source of the ice.

"It is very uncommon for something like this to come from an aircraft," Cory said. "That is really unusual if it is pure white ice, especially at this time of year."

Occasionally, aircraft latrines discharge contents at altitude, resulting in colored chunks of descending ice. Airplanes also sometimes accumulate ice on their edges in certain atmospheric conditions, including high altitude and extreme moisture, said Robert Grierson, the Dubuque Regional Airport manager and a pilot.

The moisture involved in such a scenario could have come from the tops of strong thunderstorms. However, Dubuque had clear skies at the time the ice fell, said Andy Ervin, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Davenport. "There was nothing unusual going on."

David Travis, a professor of geography and geology and an associate dean at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, has studied the phenomenon of large chunks of ice falling from a clear sky. He said it's possible the ice could have been a megacryometeor — "similar to a hailstone, but without the thunderstorm."

Travis is part of a research team that has documented more than 50 possible megacryometeor cases during the past five years. Some involve ice chunks the size of microwave ovens.

"It is hard to keep something like that suspended in air without a thunderstorm," Travis said.

Most megacryometeor sightings have occurred in coastal areas, where atmospheric turbulence helps keep ice suspended long enough to grow into large chunks.

Travis' research team speculates the phenomenon could be linked with global warming, suggesting that climate change might make the tropopause portion of the atmosphere colder, moister and more turbulent.

"But those don't typically happen in the summer time," Travis said. "It seems like they are mostly associated with the passage of passing cold fronts."

Meanwhile, Kenkel will be needing a roofer and perhaps a new bed frame to recover from the ice attack. The one in her television room was bent from the debris and ice that plunged through the roof.

"I am just happy it didn't do more damage," Kenkel said. "It could have fallen on my bed."

Again, let me refer everyone back to the initial post and the provided link on Small Comets, and how the solar system is simply loaded with water. It's how we gained so much water, and why we are still taking in more than we lose. If it comes from outer space a portion is fused together, along with the rest of the snowball. This is quite elementary, I should think.

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Well... Wouldn't it be easy to sample the ice before it melts and analyze it. If it contains trace elements usual in comets it is proven that the comet theory is right. An iceball formed in the atmosphere - if that is possible - would not contain much else than water.

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track_snake Wrote:Well... Wouldn't it be easy to sample the ice before it melts and analyze it. If it contains trace elements usual in comets it is proven that the comet theory is right. An iceball formed in the atmosphere - if that is possible - would not contain much else than water.

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That would help. However, should we set up a reaction unit to fly in at an instant's notice and save the ice from melting first? THe point is that preserving that unmelted water may prove to be quite elusive indeed. Let's hope that someone has the presence of mind to do what you suggest.

Clearly that would be one of the last things on the mind of those present, I suspect.
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Quote:Travis' research team speculates the phenomenon could be linked with global warming, suggesting that climate change might make the tropopause portion of the atmosphere colder, moister and more turbulent.


Ah, yes it's that typical conservative media
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