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Should Kerry resign from the senate?
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I saw an interview with Mass. Lt. Governor Healey this morning and she's calling for Kerry to resign from the senate. Kerry has missed 87% of the votes since he began campaigning. The argument in a nutshell is, he is no longer representing the people he was elected to represent. If I only showed up for my job 13% of the time, I would be fired - and rightly so.

When Bob Dole began his campaign, he resigned from the senate so his state could still be effectively represented. Why shouldn't Kerry follow that example? If Kerry would resign now, that would allow a special election in only 5 months to refill the seat. Kerry could be on that ballot a probably win the seat back but in the meantime the people of Mass. would have representation.

I know the counter argument is that Bush is campaigning, should he resign also so he can continue to campaign? The answer is no. Bush is not missing votes or neglecting the office. The president has a wealth of advisors and assistants that can help him manage the business of being president. Air Force One and the other supports around a president allow him to conduct the business of the US from literally anywhere without interruption. It's not just Bush, any president would be able to do this.

So should Kerry resign?
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#2
I support your second arguement. A call for Kerry to resign would certainly lead to the insistence by the far left that Pres. Bush should do the same "or he really doesn't care about the country".

Unfortunately, Kerry has an abundance of advisors and assistants, that are being paid by taxpayers, at his disposal as well, just like ALL the members of the Senate.

Frankly, I believe Kerry is missing the votes on purpose for the simple reason he can't afford to provide Republicans anymore ammunition against him.

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#3
Let him stay. It is too late to resign with dignity, and it appears that we'll have more fun with him in the Senate

From the above link:

Quote:Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) met with Secretary of the Senate Emily Reynolds Wednesday to discuss ethics complaints stemming from his prolonged absence from the legislative body while he campaigns for president. Kerry and Reynolds were spotted by Congressional staffers slipping into one of the many antechambers of the Capitol where the pair likely reviewed options for dealing with the complaints filed against both of them.

A complaint filed by Hofstra law student Jonathan Stein accuses Reynolds of willfully violating a federal statute that requires her to make deductions from Kerry's Senate paycheck for his absences. Kerry is also named in the complaint for knowingly accepting salary to which he is not entitled.

Jonathan Stein for Attorney General! -- here is one capable fellow.
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#4
Kerry should be in prison for committing purgery and treason in his false testimony to Congress about American soldiers in Vietnam. He never belonged in the Senate.
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Ron Lambert Wrote:Kerry should be in prison for committing purgery and treason in his false testimony to Congress about American soldiers in Vietnam. He never belonged in the Senate.

And who is going to jail this creature, so deeply loved by nearly half of the electorate? Best of luck. [Image: puke.gif]

And, it is "shot", not "jailed" for war-time treasons anyway.
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#6
Assume that he will not resign and loses election. Will he continue to serve in the Senate afterwards?
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ag Wrote:Assume that he will not resign and loses election. Will he continue to serve in the Senate afterwards?

Why not? His term is until 2006.
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bryedge Wrote:I support your second arguement. A call for Kerry to resign would certainly lead to the insistence by the far left that Pres. Bush should do the same "or he really doesn't care about the country".

Unfortunately, Kerry has an abundance of advisors and assistants, that are being paid by taxpayers, at his disposal as well, just like ALL the members of the Senate.

Frankly, I believe Kerry is missing the votes on purpose for the simple reason he can't afford to provide Republicans anymore ammunition against him.

But Bush is not missing any votes. Bush is still fulfilling his obligations. Kerry is not. Missing one or two votes, fine. Missing 87%? That seems like a pretty high rate to me - too high.

Kerry may also have the advisors and assitants but none of them can cast the vote for him. Maybe it is intentional to avoid providing political fodder for the campaign. If that's the case, what does that tell us about Kerry personally and about his politics? It tells us he will shirk duty to his constituents and the country for personal gain and that he fears his politics are unacceptable to the majority of the country. Both are bad news for America.

As mv points out, Kerry is being paid for doing not doing his job in violation of federal statute. At the least he should adhere to the federal statutes. Lawyers correct me here, is a statute a law or more like a guideline?
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Gary Wrote:But Bush is not missing any votes. Bush is still fulfilling his obligations. Kerry is not

There is a parallel here. Back in 2000, Bush refused to draw his salary when campaigning full time (he was not required to do so).

Meanwhile, Mr. Stein explains his position here:

John Kerry - The Senator Thief

I do find it a bit difficult to believe the greed of Mr. Kerry: he jeopardizes his chances over what is really peanuts comparing to his net wealth...well, his wife's net wealth.
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#10
Great article mv. It gives a good look at the ethics that will drive a Kerry Whitehouse:

From the article:
Quote:Title 2, Section 39, of the United States Code clearly states that “[t]he Secretary of the Senate ... shall deduct from the [salary] of each Member ... the amount of his salary for each day that he has been absent from the Senate ... unless such Member ... assigns as the reason for such absence the sickness of himself or of some member of his family."

Kerry has missed an astonishing 87% of the vote since he began campaigning for president. Yet not once has his pay been deducted in accordance with Title 2, Section 39. Note that there is no exemption to the law for campaigning. Kerry is a lawyer and a US Senator who must surely be aware of the laws that govern the legislature. He must know that he is taking these payments illegally and unethically.

If he is ignorant of this law, what does that say about his understanding of his profession? He's been in the Senate a long time to not be aware of the laws he must abide by. I really don't think Kerry is this incompetent. But anyone from the left can try to make the case for him being so if you wish. S6

Quote:When then-Governor Bush ran for President, he declined to accept his salary, as Governor, when he needed to campaign full time – even though Texas law did not require him to do so. On the other hand, though Unites States law requires Kerry not to accept his salary when he campaigns full time and cannot be present in the Senate, Kerry has opted to accept his salary illegally.


I doubt we're talking about a huge amount of money here - especially compared to the wealth he enjoys via his marriage to Theresa Heinz. Why would he continue to take the money? Ignorance of the law? Then we should see him own up to this and return the money. Think we will? Yeah, me neither.
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Quote:I doubt we're talking about a huge amount of money here - especially compared to the wealth he enjoys via his marriage to Theresa Heinz. Why would he continue to take the money? Ignorance of the law?

I suspect no, he is a lawyer. And I'm sure someone around Kerry read Mr. Stein's brief.

It might be a more interesting problem: he maintains that his finances are separate from his wife. If he forfeits the salary, he probably cannot afford paying the morgage, so he either runs afool of the campaign finance laws or has to declare bancropcy.

Mr. Kerry might have very interesting choices to make.

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I really hope Mr. Stein has a bright future. A rare example of a lawyer that is not totally useless.
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