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Made in China: 37 Bridges collapsed in 5 years | Ancient China | Quality | moral issu
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The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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In CCP they can afford to get by with inferior quality. Who's going to punish the upper 1%? Quality of export products, now that's a different story. If they don't demand better quailty there, the world will soon find out and stop doing business with them.
Eventually, this will all change because it just cannot go on forever. Sooner or later, they will have to pay. It will be interesting to see this all come falling down on the system. Perhaps I'll live long enough to see it all fall apart. Spiteful
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I think it will all fall apart within the next five years, too many countries are rethinking having pharmaceuticals, electronic components and steel made in China. I also wouldn't be surprised if Xi is forced out of government.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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(01-05-2022, 08:02 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote: I think it will all fall apart within the next five years, too many countries are rethinking having pharmaceuticals, electronic components and steel made in China. I also wouldn't be surprised if Xi is forced out of government.

Keep your fingers crossed. S22
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In any Master-slave economy, (like China) it is not hard to repair infrastructure. Workers are only a concern if they are taken away from more important work. There seem to be enough engineers rambling around to assign to such tasks. What is different from our needs, is that China doesn't worry about legal roadblocks that make the simplest projects into nightmares.
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I have a sibling that used to travel to China on a regular basis until they confiscated all his personal electronics and luggage only to leave him in a hotel room for a few days wondering if he would ever get back home to his family in America. After that experience his company suspended all further commerce with the CCP. Since I am in construction I wondered since I had never been to China what their level of quality was, since all we ever hear is how spectacular Chinese innovation is? I was not surprised when my brother told me that he would stay in the best hotels China had to offer in Beijing, rated 5 star. Only to experience a 2 star experience. Shower glass leaked into the bathroom, facade would have gaps to the exterior bringing in the pollution, and just plain unacceptable quality. I will educate all here on the standards reputable contractors here in the USA must meet. In the USA there are basic code requirements including ASTM, ACI, American State Building Codes, etc. 

Reality is that in America there is an expectation of great quality and pride. Hence, majority of new builds are of great quality and expectation. In China it is corruption and inferior product. Why? Cause only the connected to the CCP get wealthy rest just don’t care as long as they can feed their families.
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That is why the Chinese won't win any war against the West, inferior quality weapons and training.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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This is perhaps the greatest difference between "State Owned/operated", and "Privately owned/operated businesses. My guess is that changing over from the centralized to the individualized system is going to take a long, long time to happen. And China is the longest existing State Run system on the planet.
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(01-29-2022, 06:17 PM)John L Wrote: This is perhaps the greatest difference between "State Owned/operated", and "Privately owned/operated businesses. My guess is that changing over from the centralized to the individualized system is going to take a long, long time to happen.  And China is the longest existing State Run system on the planet.

Exactly. However - the changeover may take awhile because the State hoards its power, but when the people decide to take that power away from the State and hand it over to entrepreneurs, the result is immediately felt.
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I agree Canuck. Pride and FREEDOM is exactly what fuels like minded free thinkers. Why make the perfect warhead or ammunition if it only continues controlled slavery? How hard it must be for slave drivers to make sure their serfs keep them in power. Canada will soon fall. Trudeau hides while Biden subsides. What a void in leadership that currently exists in the world.
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Trudeau won't be around for much longer, he is loathed in Canada, our multi-party political is what keeps him in power. I was at one overpass when the trucking convoy drove under it. The people on the overpass, 500 at the minimum, are of the same stock that were there paying respect to fallen soldiers. What progressives haven't accounted for is the fact that the average 20 to 25-year-old has lost two years of their short adult life. They are angry and will not forget this for the rest of their lives.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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I feel your frustration canuckle. Our leadership in our country was stolen by the enemy long ago. Is the USA still a beacon for freedom? As long as I breathe it is.. along with a few 200 million of my armed friends.
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I truly believe both Biden and Trudeau are controlled by the same puppet master.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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How true were our comments back then read today? Hopefully, the USA regains itself after the 2022 elections and Canada finds its inner strength.
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(03-05-2022, 01:16 AM)OMGitzHIM Wrote: How true were our comments back then read today? Hopefully, the USA regains itself after the 2022 elections and Canada finds its inner strength.

Hold what optimism you can. We, as a people, have been stretched as far as we have - perhaps for a good reason. Since Woodrow Wilson and the "living Constitution" days - when the Dems first learned they could claim a high moral ground for changing the Constitution to fit their desires - we have been losing ground. When I look out at the nation, it is hard to find anyone who doesn't truly believe they've finally gone too far.

Look at it: Defund the police? Soros paid for Prosecutors who let felons loose? Denigrating the top (by actual metrics) President of all time? Putting a Plagiarist in the Oval Office who claims all of Trump's good works for his own, reversing them, and then blaming him for the problems his own actions brought on? Things will get better.
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You are an internal optimist my greatest friend and father. I hope things will get better, but fear hardship for the near future.
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(06-11-2022, 02:04 AM)OMGitzHIM Wrote: You are an internal optimist my greatest friend and father. I hope things will get better, but fear hardship for the near future.

Sure, things are in the dumps at the present - but when you are down, the only way is up. As the bad guys show their true colors - more and more formerly gullible Dems are seeing the light. In the sixties and seventies, when the Dems claimed all the racists and bigots who were Dems switched parties to become GOP - they lied. No one switched parties, they just claimed the GOP suddenly owned all the problems that they created. Well today, the Dems are actually switching parties. Not to bring racism with them - but to distance themselves from offensive Dem losers.
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