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The generals' belated awakening
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Quote:The generals' belated awakening

It is beginning to dawn on the Israelis that when it comes to Iran's nuclear program, the Jewish state stands alone.

Something is changing in Israel's military brass' assessment of the Iranian nuclear threat. Evidence is growing that members of the IDF General Staff and the Mossad are beginning to realize that the US doesn't share Israel's goal of preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power. Last week, for instance, Michael Makovsky, head of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, (JINSA) a Washington-based group that cultivates ties between Israeli and US generals, published an article in the New York Post in which he described their rude awakening.

Makovsky wrote, "Recent meetings with senior defense officials from our closest Middle East ally, Israel, were the most pessimistic I can recall. They perceive America as checked out, adrift, pusillanimous, unfeared and desperate to avoid military confrontation, and Iran as emboldened and nearing the nuclear weapons threshold."


The Israelis will probably attack the Iranian nuclear sites. They should also take out the Quds Force, and several other Revolutionary Guard units so the Iranian people can finish the job.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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(12-13-2021, 11:25 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote: The Israelis will probably attack the Iranian nuclear sites. They should also take out the Quds Force, and several other Revolutionary Guard units so the Iranian people can finish the job.

I'm not aware of just how much discontent and animus is currently within Iran at this time.
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(12-13-2021, 11:25 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote:
Quote:The generals' belated awakening

It is beginning to dawn on the Israelis that when it comes to Iran's nuclear program, the Jewish state stands alone.

Something is changing in Israel's military brass' assessment of the Iranian nuclear threat. Evidence is growing that members of the IDF General Staff and the Mossad are beginning to realize that the US doesn't share Israel's goal of preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power. Last week, for instance, Michael Makovsky, head of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, (JINSA) a Washington-based group that cultivates ties between Israeli and US generals, published an article in the [i]New York Post[/i] in which he described their rude awakening.

Makovsky wrote, "Recent meetings with senior defense officials from our closest Middle East ally, Israel, were the most pessimistic I can recall. They perceive America as checked out, adrift, pusillanimous, unfeared and desperate to avoid military confrontation, and Iran as emboldened and nearing the nuclear weapons threshold."


The Israelis will probably attack the Iranian nuclear sites. They should also take out the Quds Force, and several other Revolutionary Guard units so the Iranian people can finish the job.

It is sad when the only democratically minded nation of the Middle East gets ignored who understands that Iran isn't a rational nation which could trigger a serious nuclear attack when they are ready to use them.
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I'm afraid the Middle-East is going to continue being a bell-weather site for decades to come. I am not optimistic about the future over there. S4
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(12-13-2021, 01:34 PM)John L Wrote: I'm afraid the Middle-East is going to continue being a bell-weather site for decades to come.  I am not optimistic about the future over there.  S4

Yeah, but Iran is nation that could change back when the people finally grow tired of the small group holding the power by overthrowing it.
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(12-13-2021, 01:49 PM)sunsettommy Wrote:
(12-13-2021, 01:34 PM)John L Wrote: I'm afraid the Middle-East is going to continue being a bell-weather site for decades to come.  I am not optimistic about the future over there.  S4

Yeah, but Iran is nation that could change back when the people finally grow tired of the small group holding the power by overthrowing it.

You're absolutely right Tom. The overwhelming majority of Iranians are very unhappy with their leadership and its political direction. Of all the Middle-East countries, Iran is perhaps the most Western oriented, and least beholden to Almighty Islam.

The Big Question is.....When it will come crashing down. I'm going to go against my feelings and not hold my breath.
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(12-13-2021, 11:37 AM)John L Wrote:
(12-13-2021, 11:25 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote: The Israelis will probably attack the Iranian nuclear sites. They should also take out the Quds Force, and several other Revolutionary Guard units so the Iranian people can finish the job.

I'm not aware of just how much discontent and animus is currently within Iran at this time.


Iran Protests Spread to Tehran, Which Sees Biggest Anti-Government March in 18 Months

I wouldn't be surprised if there are hundreds hidden caches of weapons throughout Iran provided the the U.S., Israelis and Arab governments. All it would take is an attack on Iran similar to the one on Iraq in 1991 to get Iranian insurgents to take up arms against government forces.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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(12-19-2021, 09:42 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote:
(12-13-2021, 11:37 AM)John L Wrote:
(12-13-2021, 11:25 AM)Canuknucklehead Wrote: The Israelis will probably attack the Iranian nuclear sites. They should also take out the Quds Force, and several other Revolutionary Guard units so the Iranian people can finish the job.

I'm not aware of just how much discontent and animus is currently within Iran at this time.


Iran Protests Spread to Tehran, Which Sees Biggest Anti-Government March in 18 Months

I wouldn't be surprised if there are hundreds hidden caches of weapons throughout Iran provided the the U.S., Israelis and Arab governments. All it would take is an attack on Iran similar to the one on Iraq in 1991 to get Iranian insurgents to take up arms against government forces.

Time moderates all things. Back in Carter's time, we could have supported an uprising that could have developed into something good. Stockpiling of weapons wasn't in the cards. The people then had remembrances of living well in a more or less Free Enterprise system. But the overthrow of the Shah gave the mullahs momentum, and the hostages made Carter bend the knee.

Now, kids raised in Muslim schools have been indoctrinated to a much larger degree. The discontent may be more now, but the young students aren't ready for an uprising, and how many older Iranians are willing to put their necks on the block? An invasion from outside may give them something to get behind - but I don't think the people will do it on their own.

Sorta looks like what we have here, neh?
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I concur with Lambert. Time is all we had to moderate Iran. That has been pissed away. Does anybody think time today has any influence on Iran?
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(06-11-2022, 02:14 AM)OMGitzHIM Wrote: I concur with Lambert. Time is all we had to moderate Iran. That has been pissed away. Does anybody think time today has any influence on Iran?

What has influenced them the most regarding time, is the Biden catastrophe. They must assume Trump will come back into power in 2024 with GOP majorities in 2022. It's similar to the DNC wanting to rewrite enough laws and rules to enshrine their power before the majority kicks them out of power - possibly forever.

Iran saw a great opportunity with Obama and Biden. Then Trump came along and kicked the snot out of their plans. Looking at history, they must consolidate their power sooner than later. The people of Iran are in the same boat, but in the opposite direction. They fear exposing themselves to dethrone their rulers while Biden is their backup is not very safe.
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Let me simply remind everyone of the enormous manpower losses Iran suffered resulting from the years of all-out warfare against Saddam Hussein's Iraq. That was mostly young men, millions of whom wound up buried in Iraqi desert and swamps. Even today there must be a resulting disparity in the population of Iran in terms of generations (relative percentages of various age groups). Whether it was those youths who were inclined to resist the extremist Ayatollah government who died off, or those who were already along the way to being educated to have pro-Ayatollah leanings, I do not know. Maybe someone can assess that by looking at the political persuasions of the youths who were conscripted and subsequently buried by Saddam's superior military. I am not saying that is decisive in determining the real mindset of the majority of Iranians today. But it is something that should be considered, because it has to be a factor.

Let us just hope something happens to thwart the ambitions of the Iranian leadership, before the world finds out what will happen when Iran does acquire deliverable nuclear weapons. Will they dare to use them against Israel, which everyone knows already has its own nuclear arsenal, and could retaliate in kind? So far, Russia has not used nuclear weapons against the Ukraine, probably because even a would-be Napoleon like Putin fears how the West might respond. Is it possible we could see the same constraints on the Iranian leaders?

I for one would like to see the Lord target certain areas on earth with meteoroids where some very bad decisions are being made and evil orders being issued. That would include certain facilities and residences in places like Iran and Russia and China. But apparently God wants us to make these decisions for ourselves, so certain truths will be made clear to all the intelligent beings in the universe who are watching our spectacle on earth. He clearly wants to make sure that sin never arises again, so the demonstrations must be allowed to take place, until everyone--including God--can say "It is enough!" Or in the words of the old saying, "Give them enough rope to hang themselves with." Who "they" are, of course is a matter for divine Judgment.

I would not be surprised to see the ground open up and swallow the next Democrat National Convention, too, but I digress. I just hope the Fox and Newsmax journalists are spared.

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Well, at least, I hope the journalists and technicians from Newsmax are spared. It looks like the Murdock brothers are trying to turn Fox News Channel into CNN. Newsmax has reported that it has been over 100 days since FNC gave any air time to former President Donald Trump. I am not sure how the main commentators at FNC view this.
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(08-02-2022, 05:38 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Well, at least, I hope the journalists and technicians from Newsmax are spared. It looks like the Murdock brothers are trying to turn Fox News Channel into CNN. Newsmax has reported that it has been over 100 days since FNC gave any air time to former President Donald Trump. I am not sure how the main commentators at FNC view this.
After Rupert Murdoch ran Fox, his super liberal kids took over. They would have preferred CNN or MSNBC, but their father's projects made money, and they liked that more. Now it's a balancing act. As long as Rupert's hired commentators make money for them, they are not muzzled too much. However; harm to the system always works its way in.
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