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Funding The Wall
#61
JoohnWho Sorry but when Trump repeatedly says that the US needs a wall to stop drug smugglers, murderers and people with problems[sic], IMO, this is spreading fake news.

When they report 100 000 job loss all over again, it's, as I said, because people like to listen bad news: a plane crashes in the Philipines and it's on all the radio stations and tv all over the world. You in the US and me in Europe, we listen the same news at the same moment. And it's 90% a disaster or something negative.

Showing migrant caravans, heading north toward the US border just obeys to the same pattern.
The fact is it's much easier to stop a caravan than small groups of 3 or 4 sneaking in. These migranos are forming caravan because it's safer for them to travel in groups across Mexico and Guatemala.
Once at the border, they attempt to cross one by one.

WmL Trump said many things. But the main thing he said is that he wanted to build a concrete wall and have Mexico pay for it.

All the other things which is not his MAGA Wall, but which he talked about too a few times, are things which would be done anyway.

Of course you have a pro-migrant lobby in the US which is against the border, as we have it in Europe. But I don't think all democrats are for opening the borders totally. This is not true for what I read.
And I don't think that anybody would object fixing a fence where illegals could cross freely.

Even under Obama there were improvements on the border fence. Always been.
Trump talked just about what would be going on under any administration but presents that as his great policy and exceptional action. He's a comedian.
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#62
Fredledingue - your love of the biased media and what sometimes is fake news makes it difficult to discuss things with you rationally.  Yes, we both may see/read the news at essentially the same time, but I realize that what is being reported and what is actually happening are not the same thing.  You, on the other hand, accept the bias because it is confirmation of what you have chosen to believe.  

If it was only you, I (and we who see the bias) wouldn't care.  However, it is a large group of people who will not accept that they've been lied to.  

Whatever happened to the news media giving the news and the opinion/editorial section being recognizably separate?  Sadly, way too many folks do not realize that they are being fed op/ed stuff being presented as today's "news".
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#63
No, I don't believe everything from the media. For example I don't believe that a wall would stop drug smugglers and criminals.
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#64
(02-09-2019, 07:47 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: No, I don't believe everything from the media. For example I don't believe that a wall would stop drug smugglers and criminals.

That seems to prove that you havr accepted disinformation as if it was real. No one has ever said that walls will stop all illegals nor all druigs. However, everyone has said it would be a huge part of the total fix for these problems. This includes all the professionals who know what they are talking about. You seem to not only accept disinformation from know-nothings - but actually prioritize their drivel over input from those you should accept and believe first.
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#65
I wonder just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Stirthepot
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#66
(02-09-2019, 08:08 PM)John L Wrote: I wonder just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?  Stirthepot

Could somewhat depend on what music was playing.

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I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#67
New wall component is being installed.

These scarecrows, ten per mile of the border, will keep the invaders away.


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Appeals court sides with Trump in border wall prototype dispute  

A California-based federal appeals court on Monday sided with the Trump administration in lawsuits brought by states and environmental groups challenging the U.S. government’s authority to expedite construction of barriers along the border with Mexico.


Not a good day for the Democrats, first they lost on the census citizenship question, now this.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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#69
Here is yet one more reason why the wall will get funded, and the political ramifications of the entire thing can only help Trump.  The citizenry is helping him, by going out of their way to use moral equivalents that make the Jackasses look like petty and untrustworthy.  This appeared on Business Insider, and its about to go viral.

A like article appeared on Yahoo News, but it initially gave the impression that there were every bit as many offended as praising it.  

Rep. Steve King is already jumping in and using the slogan for what it's well worth using.

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And guess what?  Even Youtube is showing contributers starting to report on this small event, begun by a grocery store.  This is actually what got me going on this and doing some searches for news articles.  

4 Days/Beginning of the End for Demoncrats




Naturally, there's a moral to all this.  Use the right common sense, moral lesson, and it quickly gains momentum for one side.  The other side will be left in the dust, as they promote a failed system, that has lessons from all over the world.

And there's one other thing here. Trump doesn't have to spend one penny on this, but will rake in all the positive result. I suspect there will be more examples of this arriving in the near future. S22
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#70
Trump’s fellow Republicans Wrote:declaring a national emergency could set a dangerous precedent, opening the door for a future Democratic president to circumvent Congress and declare emergencies on perhaps climate change or healthcare insurance.
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They'r right: Even Obama didn't declare emergency or martial law for the fight against climate warming.

Interresting the fellow republicans already predict that the next POTUS will be a democrat.
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(Yesterday, 07:46 PM)Fredledingue Wrote:
Trump’s fellow Republicans Wrote:declaring a national emergency could set a dangerous precedent, opening the door for a future Democratic president to circumvent Congress and declare emergencies on perhaps climate change or healthcare insurance.
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They'r right: Even Obama didn't declare emergency or martial law for the fight against climate warming.

Interresting the fellow republicans already predict that the next POTUS will be a democrat.

Fred, everybody is trying to make the phrase "National Emergency" look rare.  Its not, and there are many of them still active.  Every president has declared national emergencies before, so this is much to do about little or nothing.  Trump is within his legal ability to do such.  

Now, martial law is entirely different.

Declared National Emergencies Under the National Emergencies Act, 1978-2018
Declared National Emergencies Under the National Emergencies Act, 1978-2018

If you will note, eleven were declared by MacDaddy, and three by Trump,........so far.
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