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Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1
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The woman lies a lot, has ZERO Cherokee blood, was never a minority.


From Thoughts from Polly's Granddaughter

Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Elizabeth Warren's Ancestry - Part 1

EXCERPT:


For a few weeks, it has been pretty big news that US Senate hopeful from Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren, has claimed to be Native American, Cherokee to be specific, in the past and she is still clinging to that story now. Several times, I have either read or heard her compared to the Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation, Bill John Baker, because some give her the benefit of the doubt and say Warren might have the same blood quantum as Baker. IF, and I capitalized that on purpose, because we are talking "big if" here, she actually had a Cherokee ancestor, and IF it was the ancestor she claims through, that might be true, but it isn't.

I think there must be a lot of people who either don't understand genealogy and the records available or there are a lot of people who haven't had the time to look. Whatever the reason, it seems people need to see for themselves that Warren's ancestry shows NO indication of Cherokee ancestry or heritage.

Because she has been compared to Chief Baker so much, I thought I would compare their genealogies and show how we can clearly see a difference between a real Cherokee and a fake one.

Like I have said before, there are numerous rolls of the Cherokee people plus many other records. If one can't find an ancestor on any of those rolls or in any of the records of the Cherokee people, then there is only one logical conclusion - they aren't Cherokee and they don't have a Cherokee ancestor.

Indian or Pretendian?
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Fauxcahontus suits her very well, doesn't it?  S13
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(03-12-2018, 07:48 PM)John L Wrote: Fauxahontus suits her very well, doesn't it?  S13

I posted this same article at another forum, get absurd replies from a liberal who is obviously not accepting hard evidence of her WHITE only ancestry that goes back to the 1820's.

There is a part two also at her blog.
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This woman by herself utterly destroys Warrens undocumented claims, here is a full list of her debunking articles in one place:

Thoughts from Polly's granddaughter

Elizabeth Warren Information
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Quote:hard evidence of her WHITE only ancestry

As a person who actually spent a lot of time and efforts on tracing genealogy lines, let me notice that hard evidence is not ever possible. S6

Not that it matters -- the burden is on her to supply the proof to her claims.
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(03-13-2018, 12:17 PM)mv Wrote:
Quote:hard evidence of her WHITE only ancestry

As a person who actually spent a lot of time and efforts on tracing genealogy lines, let me notice that hard evidence is not ever possible.  S6

Not that it matters -- the burden is on her to supply the proof to her claims.

You suggesting that the Census records are not hard evidence? Especially when subsequent documented records also show they were White.

Contrast with ZERO evidence from Warren.............................
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If Warren was part-Native American, what percentage would that be? Would she fall off the 1/8th lineage rule that is the cutoff for most things> I knew growing up that my 1/16th lineage made me outside the cutoff for legal gill-net fishing on the Great Lakes. As much as I love Salmon, only real Indians have that right.
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I've seen LOTS of errors in Census records. Some even funny. Different data in different censuses is quite common. And do remember that census data is based on what people told the census taker, and not everyone was truthful.

This is not to question that she is scum and likely has no trace of Indian blood -- only that a hard proof is possible without DNA tests that she would not take (and which btw can be made from a single hair.... S6 )

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More interesting question for me is this:

She got special treatment because of the claimed minority status. Was this a fraud *if she sincerely believed family stories* ?
(I had a number of family stories that I thought were true but came apart totally upon examination of archive documents! -- and some more that remain unproven/unverified.)
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Quote:If Warren was part-Native American, what percentage would that be? Would she fall off the 1/8th lineage rule that is the cutoff for most things

Lol. Let's estimate .. I think the story is from 1840s ? Assuming 20 years per generation, something like 1/64th. Still detectable by DNA testing.....
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(03-13-2018, 01:02 PM)WmLambert Wrote: If Warren was part-Native American, what percentage would that be? Would she fall off the 1/8th lineage rule that is the cutoff for most things> I knew growing up that my 1/16th lineage made me outside the cutoff for legal gill-net fishing on the Great Lakes. As much as I love Salmon, only real Indians have that right.

Warren claims she is 1/32 Cherokee, which is BELOW the minimum level to be accepted as having Indian ancestry as a Cherokee.
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(03-13-2018, 01:11 PM)mv Wrote: I've seen LOTS of errors in Census records.   Some even funny.   Different data in different censuses is quite common.  And do remember that census data is based on what people told the census taker, and not everyone was truthful.

This is not to question that she is scum and likely has no trace of Indian blood -- only that a hard proof is possible without DNA tests that she would not take (and which btw can be made from a single hair.... S6 )

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More interesting question for me is this:

She got special treatment because of the claimed minority status.  Was this a fraud *if she sincerely believed family stories* ?
(I had a number of family stories that I thought were true but came apart totally upon examination of archive documents! -- and some more that remain unproven/unverified.)

DNA tests don't work well if the purported 1/32 blood connection actually exist, Look up on how often DNA tests doesn't do well on such low levels of blood ancestry.
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(03-13-2018, 01:11 PM)mv Wrote: I've seen LOTS of errors in Census records.   Some even funny.   Different data in different censuses is quite common.  And do remember that census data is based on what people told the census taker, and not everyone was truthful.

This is not to question that she is scum and likely has no trace of Indian blood -- only that a hard proof is possible without DNA tests that she would not take (and which btw can be made from a single hair.... S6 )

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More interesting question for me is this:

She got special treatment because of the claimed minority status.  Was this a fraud *if she sincerely believed family stories* ?
(I had a number of family stories that I thought were true but came apart totally upon examination of archive documents! -- and some more that remain unproven/unverified.)

It is clear you didn't read the link I posted since the records used were fully compatible and matched other records as well. They were ALWAYS labelled as WHITE all the time, even on their death certificates.

Meanwhile Warren offers ZERO documented evidence..................
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From Medical Daily

Mar 7, 2013 06:00 PM 

Ashik Siddique

DNA Ancestry Tests Are 'Meaningless' for Your Historical Genealogy Search

EXCERPT:

Genealogy tracking has become big business, with many companies charging up to $300 to trace your DNA to specific historical figures or ethnic groups in the distant past by analyzing ancestry tests.

A group of scientists now offers a public warning that these ancestry tests have little scientific backing, and are often so unreliable and inaccurate that they amount to "genetic astrology."

Though advertisements for some ancestry testing companies give the impression that your unique DNA genealogy can tell you a specific story about your ancestry, the scientists say that the same history you get could be given to thousands of other people with a similar ethnic background, and that any number of different possible interpretations could come from your DNA results.


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