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Mueller Investigation: Is It Coming Off The Rails?
#61
This should be a Top Ten Hit. S22

THE DAY COLLUSION DIED - Parody of American Pie | Don Caron


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#62
S2 S22
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#63
Now that there is no Collusion, according to the Mueller Investigation, the Jackasses are turning to the next whipping post in this matter: FISAgate.   And Barr is the center target at this time.

Quote:Looking at all the negativity from the Democratic Party towards Attorney-General William Barr, one would think that he was the epitomy of dishonesty and the arch-enemy of democracy.  Of course, that's not even remotely true.  Conveniently ignored are his decades of public service (including many years working alongside Robert Mueller, in case anyone's forgotten that), and his sterling reputation for honest, upright conduct all those years.

No, the real reason for the desperate attacks on Barr are because the Democratic Party knows very well what's coming down the pike at them right now.  The investigations into the abuse of the FISA Court process are almost complete - and what's already emerging is explosive, to say the least.  The lead justice of the FISA court has already ruled that false or misleading testimony was given to the court by Justice Department officials in order to get surveillance warrants.  That's no longer in doubt.  Those officials are now going to be called to account - and, in doing so, the entire foundation of the Mueller investigation will be exposed for the fraud it's always been.  Some of those officials are likely to face lengthy jail sentences.  What's more, they didn't act alone or out of self-interest.  They acted to further the aims and objectives of the Obama administration, which is certain to be dragged into the spotlight.

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That's why the Democratic Party is so desperately attacking Bob Barr.  They know he's the sort of man who will follow where the trail leads, without fear or favor, and will prosecute offenses as and when they come to light.  They want anyone but such a man in that position.

Oh - and while all that's going on, don't forget that Utah US Attorney John W. Huber has been leading an internal Justice Department investigation into the FBI's handling of the Clinton investigation, and whether the FBI overstepped the mark in its investigation of the Trump campaign.  This is completely independent of the FISA investigation.  No-one's hearing much from him - or anyone else - about what he's uncovered, or where his investigations are leading.  I'm pretty sure, however, that if the FISA investigation reveals a lot of smoke, the fires underneath that smoke will be uncovered by Mr. Huber.

This year might be a pass-the-popcorn, glued-to-your-seat sort of ongoing revelation of official malfeasance and misconduct.  Nothing could be done until the Mueller Report was out - but now that it is out, it clears the way for many other investigations to proceed.
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#64
This is really getting comical if you ask me. There has to be a method to Comey's madness here, or am I just giving him too much credit?

Quote:'Not above the law': Trump indictment in play after presidency, James Comey says

Former FBI director James Comey said Thursday that he thinks President Trump likely has committed crimes that could be cause for indictment once he leaves office and, were he not president, likely would already have been indicted.

In a CNN town-hall-style meeting, Mr. Comey was asked by host Anderson Cooper whether Mr. Trump acted with corrupt intent to interfere with an ongoing investigation.

“It sure looks that way,” Mr. Comey replied, saying he based that judgment on his reading of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report and leaning most heavily on Mr. Trump’s order to White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire Mr. Mueller.

When Mr. Cooper asked the former FBI chief whether he agreed with an open letter from numerous federal prosecutors that Mr. Trump would already have been indicted on obstruction of justice charges if were not the president, Mr. Comey was emphatic.

“Yes. agree. No doubt,” he told Mr. Cooper.
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Its just possible that Comey may still be in prison when Trump leaves office. Just a thought.
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#65
Comey seems too tall to behave with such "Short Man Syndrome."
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#66
"Coming off the tracks" is especially bad when the Democrat coup conspirators show such an extreme condition of monorail mentus.
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#67
What is it going to take for Uncle Joe to actually smile during an interview? I'm sure hoping it won't be long. S22

BOOM! Joe diGenova: For the First Time I Believe These Guys are Going to Jail...


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#68
Watch the Ukraine carefully now.


Notice: several democrats are easily linkable to Uke corruption, and perhaps the most prominent among them is the current frontrunner -- via his son.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/po...ule=inline
Notice further the Giuliani comment about not visiting Kiev -- a place full of Trump's enemies, as he said.
https://www.rt.com/usa/459025-giuliani-u...p-clinton/

Expectation: Uke oligarchs really do not being neglected … and there is little risk with providing Trump with a load of juicy data on Biden Jr. and others … gratis, of course.

If I were a Uke oligarch, I'd be very concerned about getting *my version* of the events to Trump first.
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#69
Alan Dershowitz is having a Fit, and rightfully so.  He has been mildly critical of Mueller for some time now, but his final report and actions have reached the "Bridge too Far" for the Good professor.  

Quote:Shame on Robert Mueller for exceeding his role

The statement by special counsel Robert Mueller in a Wednesday press conference that “if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said that” is worse than the statement made by then FBI Director James Comey regarding Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign. Comey declared in a July 2016 press conference that “although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information.”

Comey was universally criticized for going beyond his responsibility to state whether there was sufficient evidence to indict Clinton. Mueller, however, did even more. He went beyond the conclusion of his report and gave a political gift to Democrats in Congress who are seeking to institute impeachment proceedings against President Trump. By implying that President Trump might have committed obstruction of justice, Mueller effectively invited Democrats to institute impeachment proceedings. Obstruction of justice is a “high crime and misdemeanor” which, under the Constitution, authorizes impeachment and removal of the president.

Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.

Virtually everybody agrees that, in the normal case, a prosecutor should never go beyond publicly disclosing that there is insufficient evidence to indict. No responsible prosecutor should ever suggest that the subject of his investigation might indeed be guilty even if there was insufficient evidence or other reasons not to indict. Supporters of Mueller will argue that this is not an ordinary case, that he is not an ordinary prosecutor, and that President Trump is not an ordinary subject of an investigation. They are wrong. The rules should not be any different.

Remember that federal investigations by prosecutors, including special counsels, are by their very nature one sided. They hear only evidence of guilt and not exculpatory evidence. Their witnesses are not subject to the adversarial process. There is no cross examination. The evidence is taken in secret behind the closed doors of a grand jury. For that very reason, prosecutors can only conclude whether there is sufficient evidence to commence a prosecution. They are not in a position to decide whether the subject of the investigation is guilty or is innocent of any crimes.

That determination of guilt or innocence requires a full adversarial trial with a zealous defense attorney, vigorous cross examination, exclusionary rules of evidence, and other due process safeguards. Such safeguards were not present in this investigation, and so the suggestion by Mueller that Trump might well be guilty deserves no credence. His statement, so inconsistent with his long history, will be used to partisan advantage by Democrats, especially all those radicals who are seeking impeachment.

No prosecutor should ever say or do anything for the purpose of helping one party or the other. I cannot imagine a plausible reason why Mueller went beyond his report and gratuitously suggested that President Trump might be guilty, except to help Democrats in Congress and to encourage impeachment talk and action. Shame on Mueller for abusing his position of trust and for allowing himself to be used for such partisan advantage.
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#70
Robert De Niro is beside himself over the way things are turning out over the Mueller Report. In fact, he has written Robert Mueller, who he impersonates on SNL, and asked for more clarification. After all, certain people are guilty until proven innocent.

Mark Steyn is also beside himself over all this political manure.   And he reacts to Robert De Niro's little tirade.

Steyn reacts to Robert De Niro's latest anti-Trump tirade


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#71
As usual, one of my favorite sweethearts has this to say about the "Official" end of this investigation. And in her typical form, she take no prisoners, especially with Mueller himself. Give him hell Dear. S22

Judge Jeanine: Mueller was charged with serving the US not his ego


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JL Wrote:Judge Jeanine: Mueller was charged with serving the US not his ego
Ok but why shout?
(I'm talking about Jeanine. She can speak normaly we are not deaf.)

But what she said is not 100% true. Trump did make obstruction. And some members of his team had contact with Russia. Thought calling it collusion is perhaps too much.
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(06-02-2019, 02:46 PM)Fredledingue Wrote:
JL Wrote:Judge Jeanine: Mueller was charged with serving the US not his ego
Ok but why shout?
(I'm talking about Jeanine. She can speak normaly we are not deaf.)

But what she said is not 100% true. Trump did make obstruction. And some members of his team had contact with Russia. Thought calling it collusion is perhaps too much.

She's not shouting Fred. She's a New Yawker, and New Yawkers tend to talk that way. New Yawkers LOVE to talk, and when several get together, they all tend to talk at once, which makes it hard to follow. So the one who can talk the fastest and drown out the others, is the one who gets heard. New Yawkers are All unique, and like no other on the planet. That's why I wish they would keep their uniqueness to themselves, and not head south so as to share themselves with we Southerners. Spiteful
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(06-02-2019, 03:09 PM)John L Wrote: ...New Yawkers are All unique, and like no other on the planet.  That's why I wish they would keep their uniqueness to themselves, and not head south so as to share themselves with we Southerners.  Spiteful

The volume thing is not limited to New Yorkers. Tom Leykis, the Progressive radio commentator was a master of volume. He ran the pots for his call-in guests. (Potentiometers control the volume.) He would pot down the conservatives and pot up his Leftist friends. To the radio audience, the Conservatives had to talk loudly and shrill to be heard, and the Leftists could sound normal and reasonable. Many modern-era Leftists use a similar tactic of filibustering to force the other side to talk loudly over them. If anyone talking reasonably against them starts to gain respect and attention, they will filibuster over them to drown them out and also alter their volume and shrillness. I've often urged Conservative talk show hosts to pot down the filibusterers, so the reasonable contributors can respond civilly without raising their voices. No need to cut them off - just quieten them down a bit.

I think all Democrats subscribe to Abusive Speaking 101, and the other side refuses to even recognize the game being played.
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#75
Oh... OK!
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