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Plague!
#1
The Black Death is back and in danger of spreading beyond its source.  

DEATH IS COMING Plague warning in NINE countries – including Brit holiday hotspots – amid fears BLACK DEATH could spread on flights from Madagascar
The deadly plague outbreak has struck Madagascar's major cities sparking fears it has yet to 'peak' and could spread into the surrounding region


And its the worst one of all: pneumonic plague.

Quote:PLAGUE warnings have been issued for NINE countries surrounding Madagascar amid fears the disease could spread via sea trade and flight routes.

The outbreak is considered a much bigger threat to the region than in previous years because it has taken on its pneumonic form - meaning it is airborne and spread by sneezing and coughing.

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WHO has issued alerts for nine countries surrounding Madagascar where the outbreak has occurred

WHO has issued alerts for nine countries surrounding Madagascar where the outbreak has occurred
And experts say the epidemic could still worsen as the death tolls hits 124 and more than 1,300 are left infected.

The medieval disease famously wiped out ONE THIRD of Europe's population in the 13th and 14th centuries in one of the most devastating pandemics in human history known as the Black Death.

Dr Ashok Chopra, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Texas, told The Sun Online the crisis in Madagascar had yet to peak.

He warned it was possible for the deadly plague to move further into the region given the regular flights going in and out of the country.
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#2
And there is a logical reason for its sudden spread, believe it or not.  

DANCING WITH DEATH Madagascar plague is spreading because relatives are digging up their dead and DANCING with the corpses as part of ancient ritual

Quote:Madagascans have been told to stop the traditional practice of Famadihana - which sees locals dig up deceased relatives and dance with them before they are re-buried.

It is feared the ceremony has helped spread an outbreak of pneumonic plague that has left more than 120 dead on the African island.

The country's health chief Willy Randriamarotia said: "If a person dies of pneumonic plague and is then interred in a tomb that is subsequently opened for a Famadihana*, the bacteria can still be transmitted and contaminate whoever handles the body."

The tradition has been banned since the outbreak began, but it is feared ceremonies have taken place regardless.

Some locals are openly dismissing the advice.

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Eventually the 'nay-sayers' will fall to the disease, and those remaining will get the message.   Eventually the old tradition will fall by the wayside, as the new one takes hold.  That's how traditions are born.  But at a high cost.  Spiteful



*Famadihana -  A funerary tradition of the Malagasy people in Madagascar. Known as the turning of the bones, people bring forth the bodies of their ancestors from the family crypts and rewrap them in fresh cloth, then dance with the corpses around the tomb to live music.[1]

The Famadihana custom appears to be a custom of somewhat recent origin, perhaps only since the seventeenth century in its present form, although it may be an adaptation of premodern double funeral customs from Southeast Asia. The custom is based upon a belief that the spirits of the dead finally join the world of the ancestors after the body's complete decomposition and appropriate ceremonies, which may take many years. In Madagascar this became a regular ritual usually once every seven years, and the custom brings together extended families in celebrations of kinship, sometimes even those with troubled relations.
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#3
Now there is more trouble arriving in East Africa, other than just plague.

New 'Black Death' FOUND: Deadly virus WORSE than plague and with no CURE breaks out - WHO

Quote:A DEADLY outbreak of a rare and highly fatal virus has broken out in eastern Uganda and five cases have already been identified, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has confirmed.

The disease, known as Marburg virus disease (MVD), is similar to Ebola and can be lethal in up to 90 per cent of cases.

Emergency screening has begun at the Kenya-Uganda border in Turkana after three members of the same family died of the disease in Uganda.

The outbreak is thought to have started in September when a man in his 30s, who worked as a game hunter and lived near a cave with a heavy presence of bats, was admitted to a local health centre with a high fever, vomiting and diarrhoea.
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#4
I'm not worried yet. How many died?
0.00001% of the population or something?

Call me when victims are counted in the 5 digits.

But one day we will see a real outbreak and it's not 1/3 but 2/3 of the global population which could disappear. The more humans on the planet, the more deadly the next epidemic.
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(11-05-2017, 03:44 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: I'm not worried yet. How many died?
0.00001% of the population or something?

Call me when victims are counted in the 5 digits.

But one day we will see a real outbreak and it's not 1/3 but 2/3 of the global population which could disappear. The more humans on the planet, the more deadly the next epidemic.

The best word to use here is "Concerned", I believe. I'm always concerned about the possibility of pandemics. With air travel, they can take off and spread very quickly. Shock
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It is ironic that there are so many virulent diseases popping up, even in this age of advanced medical knowledge and technology. This is one reason why I believe we are living in the time of the fourth seal: "So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth." (Revelation 6:8) Notice the part about killing with death. How do you kill with death? The bubonic plague was called "the Black Death." And also notice that many of the most virulent diseases have animal vectors--like those bats known to carry Marburg virus in that infamous cave. Or Swine Flu. Or Avian Flu. Or Mad Cow Disease. We haven't reached the point yet where one-fourth of the earth is affected. Maybe that will happen when a few nukes get tossed around by the likes of Iran, or their terrorist clients, or North Korea. (This would be included in killing "with sword.") Nukes would be followed by hunger. But already, thanks to the nuclear disaster in Japan a few years ago, the entire Pacific Ocean is contaminated with radioactive Cesium 137. All fish caught in the Pacific now contains detectable traces.

Additional note: The NASB and the NRSV use the word "pestilence" to translate the word rendered as "death" in the KJV in Rev. 6:8. The NIV translates it as "plague." The Greek word is Thanatos, which literally means death--but these modern versions recognize that proper translation requires taking things in context, which includes taking note of how various words are used in other literature of the time. There are connotations for thanatos that go beyond that caused by violence. For example: "Thanatos was the ancient Greek god or personified spirit (daimon) of non-violent death. His touch was gentle, likened to that of his twin brother Hypnos (Sleep)." Link: http://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Thanatos.html

While of course Jesus and His Apostles did not accept pagan deities as real, they did use language with an awareness of the connotations of words in common usage.
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Ron Wrote:How do you kill with death?
How do you kill without? S12

You know there are still many uncurable deseases. Antibiotics save us from most of them. But one day a resistant germ will kill us. Viruses can't be killed by antibiotics, but they are not as deadly as bacillas and microbes.
If a virus start to kill in a significant manner, then it will be very hard to fight it off.
AIDS is one of the most deadly virus but it's not very contagious and not as deadly as we think. 1/3 of the south of the African continent lives with AIDS. Probably more. So this is not it.

The other way is a disruption in the medical and pharmaceutical structures worldwide. Maybe cause by some violent events, like nukes or massive unrests, a suden lack of resource in the pharma industry.
No medicine, bye bye humanity.

It's possible that a mix of several events creates a chain reaction leading to a suden apocalypse.
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Fred, I think you missed my point about the connotations of "thanatos," translated as "death" in the KJV. It is translated as "plague" in the NIV, and as "pestilence" in the NASB and NRSV.

You make a good point about viruses--at present, we do not have many medicines that are anti-viral. Ebola is virus-caused. So is Marburg. There was one case where it was feared that Ebola had become air-borne. The military destroyed the facility rather than take any chances. This was at a research facility in the U.S. Here is more on that:

Quote:The Hot Zone: A Terrifying True Story is a best-selling[1] 1995 nonfiction thriller by Richard Preston about the origins and incidents involving viral hemorrhagic fevers, particularly ebolaviruses and marburgviruses. The basis of the book was Preston's 1992 New Yorker article "Crisis in the Hot Zone".

The filoviruses, Ebola virus, Sudan virus, Marburg virus, and Ravn virus, are Biosafety Level 4 agents. Biosafety Level 4 agents are extremely dangerous to humans because they are very infectious, have a high case-fatality rate, and there are no known prophylactics, treatments, or cures. Along with describing the history of the diseases caused by these two Central African diseases, Ebola virus disease and Marburg virus disease, Preston described a 1989 incident in which a relative of Ebola virus named Reston virus, was discovered at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Virginia, less than fifteen miles (24 km) away from Washington, DC.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone

The best and most generally effective anti-viral agent that I know of is the allicin contained in garlic. You have to make sure the type you purchase has been processed to preserve the allicin content. Garlique brand guarantees at least 5,000 I.U.s of allicin in each capsule. Allirich brand is another good source of allicin. Both provide garlic capsules that are said to be "odorless." In my experience, I have found them to be completely effective against colds, flu, pneumonia, pretty much any kind of disease--even when everyone else in the house with me is sick. Allicin also has antibiotic properties, as well--so it is a good treatment for most common diseases, in my opinion. I should note that I also take two grams of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) daily. Vitamin C boosts the immune system generally.
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(11-12-2017, 01:05 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: The best and most generally effective anti-viral agent that I know of is the allicin contained in garlic. You have to make sure the type you purchase has been processed to preserve the allicin content. Garlique brand guarantees at least 5,000 I.U.s of allicin in each capsule. Allirich brand is another good source of allicin. Both provide garlic capsules that are said to be "odorless." In my experience, I have found them to be completely effective against colds, flu, pneumonia, pretty much any kind of disease--even when everyone else in the house with me is sick. Allicin also has antibiotic properties, as well--so it is a good treatment for most common diseases, in my opinion. I should note that I also take two grams of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) daily. Vitamin C boosts the immune system generally.

There is also one other thing with which I willingly participate, and that is the "Eat Dirt" way of thinking. I willingly expose myself to anything and everything because of the antibodies my natural body produces.

I've had one or two colds/flu in the last few years, but they have come and gone in a mater of a couple of days. My body has the ability to fight them naturally and become a built-in fighter.

The more immunities a living organism develops, from being constantly exposed to pathogens, the stronger that organism is able to defeat them.
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That is supposed to be especially important for small children. I saw a recent article that states that small children are benefited by having dogs in the home, because it improves their immune system.

However, that may not work for all diseases. I would not employ the technique you suggest against bubonic plague (Yersinia pestis), Ebola, or Marburg. Or even rabies. Actually, the current treatment for rabies is to administer mostly killed rabies bacteria to develop an immunity. But this only works during the 1-3 month incubation period, before the disease erupts. It has been suggested that after this survival might still be achieved by treating all the symptoms, but that is not often tried. Also, the current treatment for bubonic plague (tetracycline or gentamicin or chloramphenicol) must be administered within 1-6 days of exposure to the disease, or else it will be too late for the antibiotics to save the patient.

Should we try to immunize children against every known disease by inoculation? That works with polio and small pox. But should we try to immunize against ebola, marburg, rabies, etc? I was bitten by a squirrel when I was four, and had to have the anti rabies shots. I developed an allergic reaction that made me really sick, and had to quit after receiving only eight shots. If that squirrel really had been infected with rabies, that may not have been enough shots to save me. I hear that many people cannot take the full series of anti rabies shots.

Besides, as I mentioned earlier, there seem to be new diseases popping up all the time, like Swine Flu, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu, etc. You can't inoculate against a disease that has not appeared yet.

Oh yes--and what about the prion-caused disease, "Mad Cow Disease"? The only way to avoid that disease is not to be exposed. You cannot inoculate against a prion-caused disease--that is something entirely different. Prions are not even organisms--they are some sort of defectively folded protein that has an ability to sabotage cell structure, and replicate itself by causing other proteins in the cells to become defectively folded.
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Its still growing: Black Death plague escalates as DOCTORS struck down by lethal disease sweeping Madagascar. DOZENS of medics treating patients infected by the lethal Black Death plague ravaging Madagascar have been struck down by the deadly disease.
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