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ANTIFA, The Real Fascists
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I'm sure most of you all know about this ANTIFA attack on April 15th, this year.  The masked attacker seemed to have gotten away with the assault, and somehow I let it slip on by.  But that was furtherest from the truth.

Trump supporter smashed in the head with U-Lock by masked Antifa Thug in Berkeley




Apparently the attacker was quickly located by 4Channel/pol, and when the guy woke up the next day, he had been 'Found Out'.  

The Bikelock Fugitive of Berkeley




This site explains how 4Chan went about nailing Eric Clanton for the crime: How 4chan Doxxing Led To The Arrest Of A College Professor
A month after Eric Clanton was identified on 4chan, he was arrested for having assaulted a Trump supporter at a demonstration in Berkeley, California
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Here's another video showing how the "Politically Incorrect" Pol folks over at 4Chan, went through the process of doing some miraculous detective work, that even the police were not able to do.

How 4Chan /pol/ FOUND The ANTIFA BIKE LOCK ATTACKER - UPDATED






Here's what got me started on this subject, because its dated just a few days ago, even though he was arrested in May.  Otherwise I would have missed this.

Eric Clanton’s “Antifa” Defense.  This article is quite good, and shows how weird this whacked up Progressive thinks and acts.   And he never once claims to be innocent or not to have committed the act.  But he is busy blaming the people who found him out and reported it to the police.  

These ANTIFA people really do need to be labeled a terrorist group by the government.  And they have no business wearing masks in order to cover up their crimes.
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John,

The martyr mentality is a common thread.  They aren't hiding their identities because they think what they are doing is 'right' ... but the seemed to think they are 'entitled' to their anonymity.  The best way to deal with them is to expose them ... and you've basically demonstrated that it doesn't really require the FBI or NSA to pull that off.

I think the left is going to have it's hands full with these guys.  The optics are bad.   The parallels between the masks and hoods are too clear to be blurred simply by changing their hue.  Thugs are thugs.  Apparently even Nancy Pelosi understands this.
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(08-29-2017, 09:42 PM)mr_yak Wrote: ...The parallels between the masks and hoods are too clear to be blurred simply by changing their hue.

I'm not sure "hue" is the correct term - morelike they wanted to mimic the KKK by action and ethos, but pretend a difference by altering minor details that look big to the media. So hoods become hoodies, and white becomes black. Their entire mindset is screwy, as they aim to target fascism while being socialist, themselves. The problem isn't philosophy - but education. Most of these cretins probably mean well, but are so disinformed that up is down and they see e v i l where there is goodness and light. Eric Clanton was that bike lock wielding thug, and actually taught ethics at the college level - which shows how deep the rot is in academia. Robert Grodt was an Occupy Wall Street medical volunteer, who went to Syria to fight ISIS and was killed. Somewhere in that biography is a well-meaning person who tried to do good, but was so propagandized that he bought into Occupy Wall Street. I doubt George Soros had to pay him to become cannon fodder - he volunteered all the way, because people like Clanton got into his head.
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(08-30-2017, 01:09 PM)WmLambert Wrote:
(08-29-2017, 09:42 PM)mr_yak Wrote: ...The parallels between the masks and hoods are too clear to be blurred simply by changing their hue.

I'm not sure "hue" is the correct term - morelike they wanted to mimic the KKK by action and ethos, but pretend a difference by altering minor details that look big to the media. So hoods become hoodies, and white becomes black. Their entire mindset is screwy, as they aim to target fascism while being socialist, themselves. The problem isn't philosophy - but education.

'Hue' is the least differential word that I could find.  Precisely because it such a minor detail.  Initially I was thinking in terms of black and white, and that's way to objective ... because there are no real differences.  Thugs are thugs.  Pin stripes, khakis and swastikas, white robes, black hoodies ... whatever.  I don't see it as politics, philosophy or education.  Some people just want to break things, burn things and beat people up ... or worse.  The ideologues use them as tools ... fair enough as they are mostly just blunt instruments.  The funny part is that they don't really see themselves for what they are.  Look at both John's example and mine above.  Both see themselves as being 'wronged' in that their anonymity has been 'violated' and that the authorities have had the "absolute gall" to charge them with their crimes.  They can cloak themselves with the delusion of what ever 'ism' they might chose.  But they're still just thugs.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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(08-30-2017, 11:14 PM)mr_yak Wrote:
(08-30-2017, 01:09 PM)WmLambert Wrote:
(08-29-2017, 09:42 PM)mr_yak Wrote: ...The parallels between the masks and hoods are too clear to be blurred simply by changing their hue.

I'm not sure "hue" is the correct term - morelike they wanted to mimic the KKK by action and ethos, but pretend a difference by altering minor details that look big to the media. So hoods become hoodies, and white becomes black. Their entire mindset is screwy, as they aim to target fascism while being socialist, themselves. The problem isn't philosophy - but education.

'Hue' is the least differential word that I could find.  Precisely because it such a minor detail.  Initially I was thinking in terms of black and white, and that's way to objective ... because there are no real differences.  Thugs are thugs.  Pin stripes, khakis and swastikas, white robes, black hoodies ... whatever.  I don't see it as politics, philosophy or education.  Some people just want to break things, burn things and beat people up ... or worse.  The ideologues use them as tools ... fair enough as they are mostly just blunt instruments.  The funny part is that they don't really see themselves for what they are.  Look at both John's example and mine above.  Both see themselves as being 'wronged' in that their anonymity has been 'violated' and that the authorities have had the "absolute gall" to charge them with their crimes.  They can cloak themselves with the delusion of what ever 'ism' they might chose.  But they're still just thugs.

You are making a huge mistake in lumping the cannon fodder in with the agitators. Were the KGB operatives the same as the kids in the 60's who demonstrated against the Vietnam War? Of course not. The kids were naive and largely ignorant, but ready to accept what they thought were positive actions. The Agitators made sure of the outcome. There were FBI and CIA undercover people in that mix also. They were there to find out what the KGB was doing, and helped some, and made problems of their own. For more in-depth articles, search out "Winter Soldier" and "John Kerry." I don't know how much data is still out there.

Yes, there are thugs who just want to break things, burn things and beat people up - but many are entrapped to do so. Left alone, those would-be thugs wouldn't have hurt a fly ...but with paid instigators pushing them, they became thugs for real. I hope we have investigators looking for the bad guys. They are every bit as heinous as ISIS.
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(09-01-2017, 03:57 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Yes, there are thugs who just want to break things, burn things and beat people up - but many are entrapped to do so. Left alone, those would-be thugs wouldn't have hurt a fly ...but with paid instigators pushing them, they became thugs for real. I hope we have investigators looking for the bad guys. They are every bit as heinous as ISIS.

Entrapped?
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Entrapment is most often used as an alibi for criminal behavior where "the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution." The bad guys normally say the police entrapped them into doing a crime that they wouldn't have done until they were lured into doing it. In this regard, it is the bad guys instigating useful idiots into criminal acts. It's hard to trace the crimes directly back to George Soros, because of the cut-outs.
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Yup, they're 'officially' terrorists ...

But it's still Trump's fault ...

Quote:In interviews, law enforcement authorities made clear that Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric and policies — first as a candidate and then as president — helped to create a situation that has escalated so quickly and extensively that they do not have a handle on it.

Pathetically weak.  It's clear that the left doesn't "have a handle" on these thugs and now that they're starting to realize how bad it looks and they are panicking.  At some point, the "Trump's Fault" line is going to start taking a "the dog ate my homework" tone ... it already has for a lot of people.

..... edit ....

Anarchists are becoming worried that Antifa are bad for the 'image' of Anarchy.
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#11
Video of Antifa trying to rough up a disabled vet in a wheel chair.

These are the images that have the left's panties in a wad.  The narrative is that their 'mission' is to protect non-violent counter protesters from nazi goons.  In this case, there is little evidence of pacifist protesters ... and the 'threat' is an older disabled veteran.  The thuggery in this instance seems limited to stealing the old guy's water bottle and dumping it on him, but these kids are still complete bully assholes.
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Two dangerous very words for the left ... Moral Equivalence.  This is what was so offensive to them when Trump described the violence on "both sides".  He's managed to blunder his way around that initial message, but the idea is taking root regardless ... the smarter lefties are realizing this to their chagrin.  

... so much winning!  S5
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...so much whining!
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(09-04-2017, 12:40 PM)mr_yak Wrote: Two dangerous very words for the left ... Moral Equivalence.  This is what was so offensive to them when Trump described the violence on "both sides".  He's managed to blunder his way around that initial message, but the idea is taking root regardless ... the smarter lefties are realizing this to their chagrin.  

... so much winning!  S5

Great article and sums up my thinking as well. Right is Right, and Wrong is Wrong, regardless the groups involved.

But there is almost always one thing that separates the Left from the Right: Emotion vs Logic. The Left is highly emotive and depends on stirring up these feelings within their ranks, in order to create the primary objective that the Left relies upon in order to take over. They need to create anarchy in place of an established law abiding community. Then they are naturally there to fill in the void and take over.

The Right hardly ever does this, because logic is more important to them. It will take an awful lot to get them to that final stage, but when they do, they really, really mean business and Watch Out. My big question is just how long it is going to take the Right to actually get to that point. But when they do.............................Watch Out Lefties. Shock
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And remember, people on the Right have far more guns than do people on the Left. Which is why the Left is so desperate to find some way to confiscate their guns.
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One solution is simple. Take away college loans and grants and only accept money for tuition, enforcing cultural success instead of entitlement for education. How many Leftard Professors would find it hard to teach children of honorable families and not just the wackos?

We should use extreme vetting for educational candidates as well as immigrants.
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WATCH: America Under Siege: Antifa.
Exposing the communist ties of this domestic terror organization.



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America Under Siege: Civil War 2017


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UNDERCOVER IN ANTIFA: Their Tactics and Media Support Exposed!


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