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Steve Bannon's War Against The GOP
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Steve Bannon is officially gone from the SH staff.  And from all indications, he actually did resign, instead of being fired.  There is a lot swirling around, but it still seems unclear as to what will happen in the future to the Trump presidency.  

Here's Ben Shapiro's take on it all: BANNON OUT: PREPARE FOR WAR

Quote:Bannon claims that he’s leaving voluntarily; Trump’s aides insist he’s being fired. It doesn’t really matter much — Trump obviously sidelined Bannon in favor of a wide variety of characters ranging from Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump to HR McMaster and John Kelly. Bannon’s influence had waned.

But Bannon still had his connections to the Mercer family, Trump’s top funders, and so Trump couldn’t overtly dump him. It would make sense that Bannon finally got tired of being a marginal player and wanted out.

That also makes sense of Bannon’s behavior over the last week: he’s preparing for the possibility of war with Trump.

Bannon is deeply vengeful, and supremely ambitious. He has already held the most powerful job he will ever have — unless, of course, his new job is to destroy Trump from the outside. And he set the groundwork for that job over the past week.

First, he pushed Trump not to alienate the alt-right — Bannon’s base — and succeeded. Bannon was widely credited in the media with encouraging Trump’s bizarre Tuesday press conference, at which Trump rehabilitated the alt-right and said there were “very fine people” protesting with white supremacists in Charlottesville. Trump could have easily carved off the alt-right and not lost much; Bannon, however, had to keep them in his pocket. Without them, he is merely another former government employee searching for a home. With them, he can threaten Trump with political Armageddon.

Second, he gave an insane interview with The American Prospect that isn’t insane at all in retrospect. In that interview, he laid out his own foreign policy and contrasted it with Trump’s — a fully isolationist foreign policy that the Trump administration almost certainly will not pursue, a militant and protectionist foreign policy with regard to trade with China, an “anti-globalist” policy totally at odds with some of Trump’s closest advisors like Gary Cohn.

Shapiro also fills in a little bit more, on what to expect from Bannon from another article.  There's something about all this that I find quite plausible.  

And keep in mind that Shapiro worked at Breitbart, so he knows a good deal about Bannon's personality and how he goes about doing things.   Just last year, even before the election, Shapiro wrote about the problems Bannon would bring to a Trump WH, should Trump win the election.

What Former Breitbart Editor Ben Shapiro Says You ‘Need to Know’ About Trump’s New Campaign CEO.  

Quote:In the piece published on his website, The Daily Wire, Shapiro wrote that Bannon will “predictably and hilariously” join Trump’s campaign after transforming Breitbart News “from hard-charging news outlet to drooling Trump mouthpiece.”

“I have a bit of experience with Bannon, given that I was the editor-at-large of Breitbart News for four years, and worked closely with Breitbart and Bannon,” Shapiro said, adding that there are things “you need to know about Bannon.”

Shapiro, who quit his role at the website earlier this year, reiterated his assertion that Bannon turned Breitbart into “Trump Pravda” for “his own personal gain.”

“If Trump wins, he’s in a position of high power; if Trump loses, Bannon could head up a new media empire with Trump’s support,” Shapiro wrote.

I know this for a fact, because I used to be a Breitbart regular, and Posted a great deal over there.  But eventually the news site became pretty much a Trump love fest, and the new commenting followers began verbally attacking anyone who dared be critical of him.  I finally left, along with a large number of others, and have hardly been back.  I'm now very careful of any article of theirs that I wish to quote.
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I think Bannon will stay local to Trump, he'll probably take the gloves off when it comes to Hollywood idiots and Democrats.
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(08-19-2017, 09:05 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: I think Bannon will stay local to Trump, he'll probably take the gloves off when it comes to Hollywood idiots and Democrats.

Agreed regarding Trump ... but I don't think he'll limit himself to just "Hollywood idiots and Democrats".  He'll also be going after the GOP squishy establishment with a vengeance.  I think he'll lean heavily on Congress ... and that may ultimately benefit Trump and his agenda.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...nald-trump

As bombastic as Trump is, it would be difficult to image him holding McCain to account for his single vote breaking Obamacare rollback (if you can call it that). If anybody could pull off an attack on a dying veteran, it would be Steve Bannon ... but he certainly couldn't do it from the White House. He's much more dangerous on the outside. If Lindsay Graham was a smart guy, I would figure he'd maybe start keeping his mouth shut ... but probably not.
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(08-20-2017, 12:35 PM)mr_yak Wrote:
(08-19-2017, 09:05 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: I think Bannon will stay local to Trump, he'll probably take the gloves off when it comes to Hollywood idiots and Democrats.

Agreed regarding Trump ... but I don't think he'll limit himself to just "Hollywood idiots and Democrats".  He'll also be going after the GOP squishy establishment with a vengeance.  I think he'll lean heavily on Congress ... and that may ultimately benefit Trump and his agenda.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...nald-trump

I'm not so certain.  I know he had run-ins with Kurshner and Ivanka.  He is a devout economic protectionist, while the later two are economic globalists.  

Quote:On the outside Mr Bannon will target a ring of presidential advisers sometimes known as the "globalists". It includes Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, chief economic adviser Gary Cohn, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, with whom Mr Bannon appeared to have lost a battle over putting more troops in Afghanistan.

Also in the firing line are Republican leaders in Congress such as House Speaker Paul Ryan and senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Republicans who Mr Bannon blames for stalling Mr Trump's agenda, including funding for the border wall, and failing to overturn Obamacare.

Mr Bannon has few allies left within the White House promoting his agenda of economic nationalism(i.e. Protectionism)*. There was speculation that the few who remain, including senior policy adviser Stephen Miller, and deputy assistant Sebastian Gorka, could be purged by John Kelly, the new chief of staff who is seeking to bring order to the chaotic administration.

* As Bill and I are well aware, from our days studying the late Jude Wanniski, it was protective tariffs, along with higher taxes, which led the US into the Great Depression, not the Crash of '29.  Because of our protective tariffs, the rest of the world followed suit, and the entire world entered the same Great Depression.  

This is my biggest complaint against the 'so called' Alt-Right.  Protectionism Does NOT work, and only leads to economic ruin. I tend to agree with Bannon on just about everything else, but Vehemently oppose economic protectionism, and punitive tariffs.  Also, I believe we should get the hell out of Afghanistan, and cut our losses.  As I stated earlier, we should have "kicked ass, taken names" and then left with a dire warning.  It would have saved us untold lives and trillions of wasted dollars.  S4
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With regards to China, there are a LOT more reasons than simple economic protectionism to continue to counter them. And Bannon's departure isn't simply going to make that go away. They're more than just a competitor ... they are an adversary. It's much more complicated than that, but I don't think that makes it any less true. You're correctly looking at economic prosperity as a goal that should not be tainted with games. But for the Chinese it's simply another tool and a means to an end. And the only thing worse than thinking of trade as a weapon is the refusal to recognize that your adversaries are wielding it.
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I wish Wannisky was still around.

Truly the players advising Trump from both sides are useless. Does anyone have a list of good guys who can help?
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STEVE BANNON Goes After Mitch McConnell and ‘Little Bobby Corker’ at Kelli Ward AZ Rally
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Now its all out war against the Dumbass elites. And at this time, the enemy of choice is McConnell.

STEVE BANNON’S WAR WITH THE REPUBLICAN ELITIST ESCALATES

Go to the 17:25 point where Hannity interviews Bannon. S22

Steve Bannon to Sean Hannity: ‘We Started a Civil War…Against the Republican Establishment’


I'm all for Bannon on all this, even though his odds of winning are less than 50:50. Personally I think it is impossible to get rid of the Elite Dumbasses, and will actually require a Real 2nd party. But until then, I'm getting my popcorn and beer ready. S13
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