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#41
Name the Democrats who are not in lock-step with the ultra-Left extremists. The old days when blue dog Democrats could influence the party are over.

I met a young guy in front of the city library today, who was asking for signatures to run for city council. I had no idea who he was or what he stood for, yet people were more than glad to put their signatures on his petition. I asked him what party he would caucus with. (Not which party he was) and he tried to dodge it by saying he wasn't partisan, but when pressed, he said he would caucus with the Democrats. I asked him what issues he wanted to run on, and he gave me a blank stare - then came back that he wanted to run AGAINST the people who were already there, because they were "just in it for themselves."

Almost all the candidates or their supporters who come to the door never say what party they are if they are Democrats, and none of their literature discloses it either, so it is a planned strategy. Also, these folks are usually ignorant on the issues, and rather use politics of personal destruction. It's NOT what they want to do, it's how bad others are.

I wonder how the logic shakes out that a person who has no issues could be other than in it for himself - and project that as the reason to vote him in against others who have a track record of voting and issues.

Beware the same tenet writ large. Schumer, Pelosi, McCain, and Lindsey Graham are all about politics of personal destruction, yet are paragon examples of what they argue against.
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#42
(03-29-2017, 03:06 PM)Palladin Wrote: John,

I would never say Trump is not a smart person.

IF that article is accurate, what he needs to do right now is start working with the democrats, he will win more votes for healthcare reform and decent other policies with them and the handful of GOP who are not worshipping mammon totally than working with this Ryan led group of pagan idol worshippers in the GOP.

You did call him "amateurish", "Boneheaded" and "such a thoughtless person". And all just on this page alone.
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#43
You don't think he comes over as amateurish and boneheaded?

Calling Cruz's wife names due to depression, discussing how big his dick is in a debate via allusion to his hands, attacking parents of a dead US soldier, tweeting charges against Obama he cannot support, falsely accusing the British intell agencies of wiretapping him via Obama request(these are criminal charges BTW), embarrassing the Australian PM on a phone call, can't get a temporary freeze on immigration in effect from 7 warring nations( first time I have ever heard of this happening to a POTUS), has an AG leading the charge to deport immigrants in a way that even the mayor of Knoxville won't work with the red neck and he has successfully made Muslims martyrs along with all the other snowflake groups.

Yea, that's pretty amateurish and boneheaded. He's smart cause he makes big money. I can't do that, I could have avoided everyone of these embarrassing boneheaded moves though.

What was that sermon you preached a while back, the difference between smart and wisdom? He ain't got wisdom.


He makes enemies faster than any human in earth's history. Hitler wasn't this rash in his relations with foreigners until he made war on them.

Here, read this. Big temporary halt to immigration is so necessary, he's an impotent loud mouth:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...countries/
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#44
Patrick, you're overreacting on all this. You can save yourself some time and angst by just breaking it all down to its lowest common denominator. He's just an Asshole, that's all. And that's why I don't care for him from day one. He can't help himself, he's a New Yawker, which is where the highest percentage of Assholes come from. Seriously.

But the truth is that he really is doing better than I ever expected,...........so far. So, for heaven's sake, give the man a little bit of credit. Not that he deserves it mind you, but just to be a nice Christian fellow, ok? S13
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#45
Which one of these do you consider frivolous? If you had died in combat, what would your father have considered Trump's character to be like if your parents were the target of his disrespect?

He's more than just an asshole John, he is seriously incompetent. Honestly, this guy's temperament is uber bad. He's also getting us further involved in the never ending wars, he wants to cut out lots of funding for the poorest folks in Appalachia( stupid enough to have voted for the jerk) the nation to pay for his "wall", his AG is threatening states that have authorized medical marijuana, etc.

Just knowing that fundy red neck is in office makes me want to puke. He probably privately wishes he could arrest people for drinking beer as well.
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#46
Projection, Palladin, just projection. Sessions is a good guy. Trump is a good guy. The people that have known them for years say so. The people you read who criticize them re trained to use politics of personal destruction. Trump is also not an "asshole" as John believes. He has good, decent reactions to people, and only reacts in kind to others who break civility. Look up the instances and dig a little deeper to see the triggers used to defame him, and how he doesn't just sit back and let the lies bury him, like Bush 43 did. You can't have it both ways. Coulter wrote several books describing the Democrat process and why it is useless to play the Saint against them.

You keep using several Leftist examples to defame Trump. You actually fell for the attacks about "attacking parents of a dead US soldier" (a political attorney who got money from the Dems for his company to continue representing illegals), " tweeting charges against Obama he cannot support" (which have already been verified), "falsely accusing the British intell agencies of wiretapping him via Obama request." Which Napoletano still defends and verifies.
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#47
Sorry Bill, he's still an Asshole. I think Patrick takes his animus a little too far, but so do you from the other side.

You two make a good "Point Counter-Point" though. Spiteful
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#48
Possibly so, but Trump is a genuinely nice guy, who responds to attacks in a logically aggressive way that works. That response is easily played by those who have no regard for truth or honor, themselves, but the alternative responses could be as bad or worse. After all, those attacking him would attack regardless.
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#49
(04-01-2017, 08:09 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Possibly so, but Trump is a genuinely nice guy, who responds to attacks in a logically aggressive way that works. That response is easily played by those who have no regard for truth or honor, themselves, but the alternative responses could be as bad or worse. After all, those attacking him would attack regardless.

Maybe that's a "genuinely nice guy" up where you live Bill, but certainly not down here. The way he treated Cruz was the absolute pits. Had he said the things about my wife as he did, I would have beaten the living hell out of him,..............in public.
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#50
(04-01-2017, 08:50 PM)John L Wrote: ...The way he treated Cruz was the absolute pits. Had he said the things about my wife as he did, I would have beaten the living hell out of him,..............in public.
However, Trump did not respond to Cruz by beating the living Hell out of him - he just escalated as he returned fire - just as he had explained he would. No shocker at all. The only argument one can make is if the escalated return fire is too much or too little. The hiccup in the equation is how the media treats the exchange. At this point it seems anyone who calls Trump arrogant or an A-hole is accepting the media slant. Anyone who says they needn't know the man behind the curtain is because they've seen the media hits enough to brand him what the media wants them to. The argument is always that "the media isn't tricking me - I've made up my own mind from what they've told me!" Well, those that actually know Trump are uniformly 180 degrees from the image put forward, yet too many go with the media while denying it. After all, if one doesn't know the man, yet claims he does from observing him through the media lens, how can this be takien seriously?
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#51
(04-01-2017, 09:55 PM)WmLambert Wrote:
(04-01-2017, 08:50 PM)John L Wrote: ...The way he treated Cruz was the absolute pits. Had he said the things about my wife as he did, I would have beaten the living hell out of him,..............in public.
However, Trump did not respond to Cruz by beating the living Hell out of him - he just escalated as he returned fire - just as he had explained he would. No shocker at all. The only argument one can make is if the escalated return fire is too much or too little. The hiccup in the equation is how the media treats the exchange. At this point it seems anyone who calls Trump arrogant or an A-hole is accepting the media slant. Anyone who says they needn't know the man behind the curtain is because they've seen the media hits enough to brand him what the media wants them to. The argument is always that "the media isn't tricking me - I've made up my own mind from what they've told me!" Well, those that actually know Trump are uniformly 180 degrees from the image put forward, yet too many go with the media while denying it. After all, if one doesn't know the man, yet claims he does from observing him through the media lens, how can this be takien seriously?

Who you gonna believe Bill, them or your lyin' eyes? Spiteful
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#52
I still would have preferred Ted Cruz over Donald Trump. But Trump is what we have. At least he is thousands of times better than the lifelong murderous criminal, and pathological liar, Hillary Clinton, would have been.
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#53
(04-02-2017, 11:27 AM)Ron Lambert Wrote: I still would have preferred Ted Cruz over Donald Trump. But Trump is what we have. At least he is thousands of times better than the lifelong murderous criminal, and pathological liar, Hillary Clinton, would have been.

Oh, I agree Ron. That's where Patrick and I part ways. I'm at least realist enough to know that one cannot have everything one wants in life. I try to take everything on a case-by-case basis.

For example, his childish reactions to the Freedom Caucus are totally unacceptable. Somebody really does need to take his smartphone and computer away from him, so he can't tweet such stupid nonsense. The man is really his own worst enemy at times because he can't seem to put his brain in gear before putting his mouth/fingers in motion.

If he is going to do such in the future, he really needs to hire a couple of good political joke writers, like Johnny Carson, and other midnight hosts use. He could certainly improve his ratings with the ability to use humor on the fly.
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#54
JohnL Wrote:He could certainly improve his ratings with the ability to use humor on the fly.

I thought his quip to Merkel was a real knee slapper ... and Merkel's reaction to it was priceless.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...d-by-obama

... and it's quite possible that this actually was on the fly.  Obama, in contrast, would have required a full team of writers, multiple focus groups and a teleprompter to pull off the same gag.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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#55
John,

I would much prefer Cruz over Trump. Right now, other than McCain, I cannot name a politician I would not prefer over Trump on this continent.

I opposed Cruz because I perceived he was into what I term "christianism" i.e. the USA is a Christian state and governance must reflect that view. This state has no more to do with Christ than any other state does. None.
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#56
(04-02-2017, 01:29 PM)mr_yak Wrote:
JohnL Wrote:He could certainly improve his ratings with the ability to use humor on the fly.

I thought his quip to Merkel was a real knee slapper ... and Merkel's reaction to it was priceless.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...d-by-obama

... and it's quite possible that this actually was on the fly.  Obama, in contrast, would have required a full team of writers, multiple focus groups and a teleprompter to pull off the same gag.

Yeah, at least they do have something in common, don't they.  S5

I'm not sure if their meeting went all that well, but he did manage to say something other than a real put-down.  Shock

Jack, one of the things I really liked about Junior was his down home Southern "self deprecating" humor. And there was no doubt that it was off the cuff and natural. Its just a shame that he didn't use it more often.
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#57
(04-02-2017, 03:10 PM)Palladin Wrote: John,

I would much prefer Cruz over Trump.

Well no shit Sherlock.  But it didn't stop you from running him down the river as being a horrible candidate because he was cursed with a father who was an Evangelical pastor.  Oh lord, the world was coming to an end, because he wasn't the "Perfect Candidate"

(04-02-2017, 03:10 PM)Palladin Wrote: Right now, other than McCain, I cannot name a politician I would not prefer over Trump on this continent.

He's the only one?  Really?  Trump is worse than Lindsay Graham?  Actually there are more than a few who I would prefer not to have over The Donald.  

(04-02-2017, 03:10 PM)Palladin Wrote: I  opposed Cruz because I perceived he was into what I term "christianism" i.e. the USA is a Christian state and governance must reflect that view. This state has no more to do with Christ than any other state does. None.

Its a damned good thing you weren't looking for a wife the same way you are looking for a president.  Otherwise you'd still be a bachelor, correct?  S13

The point is that you not only look at the negatives, but the positives as well. Then you weigh them against each other, AND you learn to realize that you Ain't Gonna' EVER find the "Perfect Candidate", and that's a fact. Get used to it, and stop being so critical of everyone.

Oh, and learn to relax for a change. As Brother Dave used to say "Life's too long to be bugged". And you are certainly too bugged, Big Time. Relax.
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#58
I'd rather have Hillary in office over Trump, so I'd also prefer Graham. I mean what I say, I think Trump is probably mentally unsound. No 74 year old human should be as concerned with slights as that man is.

He's a dangerous man in a powerful office and it won't surprise me if we come to find out someday a guy like Mattis just flatly refused an order.

Far as me running down Cruz, he deserved it. Any leader of any secular state who honestly thinks he is serving God by attempting to form a nexus between any religion and any state deserves to be disrespected. I would have assumed your education relating to Europe and the church or Islam and the state sufficed here.

Almost any other flaw would have been no big deal to me, but, I think more of Christ than the USA and I am tired of seeing atheists indicate the conduct of some Christians is their logic for their atheism. I can just imagine a POTUS trying to be the Pope and the negative effect on humanity. That day is past.

I like Ted's other views.
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#59
Your very first sentence above automatically disqualifies you as someone applying common sense to your argument.

I'm out of here. Go and rant at Bill. When you decide to apply some logic and yes a little humor, I'll think about continuing this with you. But until then,....................... Gah
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#60
Why is it that you automatically assume that anyone who is serious about his religion must be trying to impose a religious dictatorship? Isn't there any room for faithful Christians in government? Shouldn't the culture and laws of a nation be informed by the best religious values? Or should we let the out-and-out haters of God and Good prevail by default? Whose side are you on, Palladin? God's or the Devil's? Or are you among those fools who try to pretend the Devil does not exist? The real, absolute truth is that the only true hope of humanity is the Judgment, where every individual who has ever lived--including all those now living--are called into final account. By God, the Omniscient, who knows every thought of the heart. Then He can restore Paradise, Who created the original Paradise.
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