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Islam: The 'So Called' Religion of Peace And..............
Another one punched elderly tourists in Nice (or it was Canne?) and threw some of them in the water. (Shouting Allah-u-Akbar, of course). It became so usual....
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Somehow I missed this last month. Aww

Samia Shahid 'honour killing': Raped before death

As I keep saying, Islam is not a religion: its an Autocracy disguised as one. Spiteful
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This article is about jihadi motivation recruiting, but, this is the key to why Islam exists. Hot sex forever. Mohammad would never have gotten off the ground if he didn't convince young Muslims( girls also get their houris) they could screw houris forever in heaven. Imagine it, they are hotter than any earthly woman, they are perpetual virgins, they never get old, ugly and fat, never say no, never do anything displeasing and you get 72 to yourself.

It's a wonder the hippies didn't convert to Islam during the free sex era over here.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2...12051.html
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(09-19-2016, 07:48 PM)Palladin Wrote: This article is about jihadi motivation recruiting, but, this is the key to why Islam exists. Hot sex forever. Mohammad would never have gotten off the ground if he didn't convince young Muslims( girls also get their houris) they could screw houris forever in heaven.  Imagine it, they are hotter than any earthly woman, they are perpetual virgins, they never get old, ugly and fat, never say no, never do anything displeasing and you get 72 to yourself.

It's a wonder the hippies didn't convert to Islam during the free sex era over here.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2...12051.html

Its exactly why Autocratic Islam, and Autocratic Socialism, are so compatible.  Both promise a utopia of unlimited expectations; one of this world, and one of afterlife.  That's why the overwhelming majorities of Islamic states tend to incorporate both in their itinerary by living, eating, and breathing, both.  They cover all the bases together.  S13
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This is a learned objection to Islam as opposed to some of the other stuff. Their god is a hell of a lot like us, picking and choosing who he likes:

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Meet apostate and anti-islam activist Majid Oukacha
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9059/majid-oukacha
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(10-08-2016, 05:29 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Meet apostate and anti-islam activist Majid Oukacha
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9059/majid-oukacha

I agree with him.  The concept of Individual Liberty is the worst thing to Islam.  That is why it is a dictatorial autocracy. Nobody is to be allowed to think for themselves.  Allah does all that for the believer.  

Quote:I prefer the individualism of intellectual ideals and moral values of modern Western civilization to the Islamic "big-brotherian" system that criminalizes liberties.

He gets it.  S22
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He is a very talented YouTubist. When he talks he is confounding. Unfortunately he talks only in french.
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Just so you don't think you are being irrational and have a problem getting along with others,.............

Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL


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I'm moving this thread from the "Religion/Philosophy" section, because Islam is definitely NOT a religion, but a cruel dictatorial ideology. And here's a very good example.

Jihadi mum kisses tiny daughters, aged seven and nine, goodbye - then sends them off on suicide bomb mission. The seven-year-old girl is understood to have died in a remotely detonated bomb blast inside a Syrian police station shortly after the footage was filmed

This is worse than sick. Its abominable, and needs to be stamped out, because it is not possible to reform such a horrible system. Gah
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This is the epitome of instructive: how to interact with Islamists.

It comes down to some basic psychological mechanisms. The reason the mother could send her daughters to their deaths is because she had been brainwashed into believing idiocy. Everyone sneers at how stupid people are so easily influenced, but the Islamic world has set up a paradigm where such brainwashing is a given. In the West, the faithful are taught to challenge what they are told and test themselves to come to truth. Even in America, zealots can be brainwashed - but under Muslim teachings, no challenges or testing is permitted, so brainwashing is the norm - not the exception.
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Islam is yet to have its Renaissance. Even better, its Protestant Reformation. Some people say the Shia faction represents that, but really the Sunny and Shia schism is more analogous to the Roman and Orthodox division of Catholicism.

If Europeans were not so blatantly, sinfully secular, they might be able to have a sanctifying, edifying influence on the Muslims among them. But Christian Europe has lost this opportunity, and all-out civil war against Muslims is now virtually unavoidable. The Christian church in Europe bears much of the responsibility for failing to be a light to the world. In fact, many of the ills in world society can be blamed on the example and corrupted teachings rampant in the churches--foremost being the foolish notion that the Law of Ten Commandments has been done away with. Many people have also been repelled by the unBiblical idea that the wicked are tormented forever in a burning hell. And if the churches kept the seventh-day Sabbath of the fourth commandment as a memorial of Creation of life on earth by God, then more people would remember their Creator, and the sanctity of life, and the rights the Creator has endowed upon mankind.
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(12-21-2016, 11:52 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Islam is yet to have its Renaissance. Even better, its Protestant Reformation. Some people say the Shia faction represents that, but really the Sunny and Shia schism is more analogous to the Roman and Orthodox division of Catholicism.

It can't. Only if they renounce the Big Mo and eliminate what he supposedly wrote. Its the same thing as reforming Christianity by eliminating Christ. It can't be done, or it ceases to exist. That's why Islam is doomed eventually. Oh, someone will try to water it down, but it will then become totally castrated. Then it will cease to be the cult that it is.

Besides, if one is going to reform it, why do so, since there is already one present that is there for them: Christianity.
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Yes. Islam is not able to reform or perform a renaissance.

You can't modify the Koran because the Koran has been written by God. And the Koran contains all rules. So no reform possible.
You don't rewrite what God wrote. Do you?

Schism in Islam is only skin deep. The basics remains the same.

Christianism, on the other hand, is able to evoluate because its rules are not written by God, and not even written in the Bible (which is not written by God neither). Nothing is written by God in christianism, so everything can be re-adapted.

If tomorrow the Vatican decides that extra-marital sex is not a sin, it's perfectly feasable without being in contradiction with the basics of Christianism. You may be in contradiction with St Paul's Letters and other stuffs, but it doesn't matter because St Paul is not Our Father.
If they don't, it's only because they have a long, extra-biblical, tradition which says otherwise.
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By the same token, if an Imam is told by God there is some change He wants made to the Koran, then it will get in. as it has in the past. ...And with Abrogation, the newest stuff supplants the older stuff, which becomes null and void if it conflicts with the new word. This is one reason the Jihadists have so much Chutzpah, because The latest stuff is all the evil, smite your enemies stuff, and the older Peaceful stuff has been abrogated.
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Abrogations are only valid for the time the Kuran was written. No more aborgations after the 7th C.
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It is valid for whenever The Imans say God has spoken.
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Just for the record, Muhammad went through two phases in his life.  The younger Mo was more conciliatory, and later in life became much crueler, and his writings clearly show this.  He even participated in executions of non-believers he had conquered.  So, the more moderate Islam gave way to what it is now, and it is was he who did this, not some later scholar.
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(10-28-2017, 06:57 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Christianism, on the other hand, is able to evoluate because its rules are not written by God, and not even written in the Bible (which is not written by God neither). Nothing is written by God in christianism, so everything can be re-adapted.

For some reason you are overlooking the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17, which was written by the finger of God Himself Personally on tables of stone. The latter is stated explicitly in Exodus 24:12: "Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them.'" (See also Exodus 31:18, which states that God wrote them with His own finger.)

Jesus upheld the Law (including all the predictions of the Old Testament) when He said, "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." (Matthew 5:17, 18; NKJV)

The Apostle James declared: "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty." (James 2:10-12; NKJV) Note that here James is clearly talking about the moral law of Ten Commandments, and he calls it "the law of liberty." We Christians believe that from our perspective, the Ten Commandments are promises of the kind of people God will make us into, if we walk with the Holy Spirit, as an expression of our faith in Jesus and His Righteousness as God. As it has been said, "God's biddings are enablings." After all, He created the universe by speaking it into existence ("By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth....For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast." Psalms 33:6, 9; NKJV) The Bible teaches that God's Word creates reality itself. Thus His Law is truly the Law of Liberty. (See also Galatians 5:13, 14.)

Again, Jesus testified to John in Revelation: "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city."

It is remarkable that anyone would try to deny the centrality of the Law of God in Biblical Religion. 1 John 3:4 tells us that the Law DEFINES what sin is: "Sin is the transgression of the law." (Other translations say "Sin is lawlessness.") Since the Law defines what sin is, that means we would not know that we need a Savior without the Law to convict us of falling short of God's standard of righteousness, and thus being unfit for fellowship with God and with sinless beings in the rest of the universe. Justification by faith is the foundation of Christian theology, and justification implies adjudication before the Law of God.

This reminds me of a curious experience I had when I visited with some friends a Mosque in Washington D.C. that was open to tourists, about 40 years ago. I asked the two Muslim clergy who were there to answer questions if Islam had any law equivalent to the Ten Commandments. They both said no. They never mentioned Shariah Law. Now that Muslims everywhere are pushing for recognition, even adoption of Shariah law in Western nations, this denial seems very strange to me.
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