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The Destruction of Sweden
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(05-26-2017, 01:32 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: The province of Ontario used to permit religious tribunals to settle family disputes, then Muslims demanded they be allowed to establish Shariah-based tribunals similar to Jewish and Catholic arbitration bodies. Now no religious body has it as religious tribunals have been banned to prevent Sharia Law from being recognized in Ontario.

The Jewish and Catholic arbitration bodies deal with counseling. The Sharia Courts are presumptive. Caught stealing, lose a hand. Show your face, get stoned for being a whore. They don't stone goats, but they seem to be just as tempting.

Bad things always seem to ruin good things, don't they?
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#22
IMO even jewish or christian counceling tribunal or court or whatever religious legal body is anachronical and shouldn't exist in a modern society.
I don't want to be judged by poeple who think they know the law of God.
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#23
An effort to prevent recognition failed recently here in Colorado.  As far as I know, there wasn't actually any language directed at religious law ... only a statement that non-U.S. laws would not be allowed to supersede U.S. laws.  It was widely condemned as flawed and racist .. without actually pointing out any of the flaws ... or racism.  It's difficult for me to imagine that extra-judicial rulings that prompt efforts like this wouldn't be slam dunks for being overturned on appeal ... except maybe for the 9th and DCCA.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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(05-30-2017, 09:22 PM)mr_yak Wrote: An effort to prevent recognition failed recently here in Colorado.  As far as I know, there wasn't actually any language directed at religious law ... only a statement that non-U.S. laws would not be allowed to supersede U.S. laws.  It was widely condemned as flawed and racist .. without actually pointing out any of the flaws ... or racism.  It's difficult for me to imagine that extra-judicial rulings that prompt efforts like this wouldn't be slam dunks for being overturned on appeal ... except maybe for the 9th and DCCA.

Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to get a dose of reality, perhaps a bombing or two, and they will suddenly realize that they have been mugged by reality.
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(05-30-2017, 09:40 PM)John L Wrote: Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to get a dose of reality, perhaps a bombing or two, and they will suddenly realize that they have been mugged by reality.

I think in this particular context, I the shocker would probably come in the form of some sort of gruesome "honor killing" precipitated by a progressive judge that chose to not to issue a restraining order and forced some poor woman back to her abusive husband/father based on a community Imam's 'legal' edict demanding her return.  

Here's how it works in Britain ...
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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#26
Most of these "anachronical" courts are similar to The Peoples' Court where litigants sign a contract to follow the advice of some televised Judge and get paid for appearing, hoping their payment will be greater than any penalty they must come up with. This is contract law - not criminal law, in that the participants are entertaining an audience, not obeying the law and its consequences. Sharia goes far beyond that.

An interview with a preacher is just looking for advice, trying to find an acceptable way to forgo going to court. With such an agreement, there are no entanglements. With Sharia, if one accepts the authority to rule on a minor disagreement, one also accepts all the ramifications, including the mandatory death to infidels. No in-between ground - all or nothing.
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(05-31-2017, 12:51 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Most of these "anachronical" courts are similar to The Peoples' Court where litigants sign a contract to follow the advice of some televised Judge and get paid for appearing, hoping their payment will be greater than any penalty they must come up with. This is contract law - not criminal law, in that the participants are entertaining an audience, not obeying the law and its consequences. Sharia goes far beyond that.

An interview with a preacher is just looking for advice, trying to find an acceptable way to forgo going to court. With such an agreement, there are no entanglements. With Sharia, if one accepts the authority to rule on a minor disagreement, one also accepts all the ramifications, including the mandatory death to infidels. No in-between ground - all or nothing.

And that is why Sharia law is totally unconstitutional, having no business here in the US. If they want to play with Sharia, then go home and play with it there.

The more we put up with this, the harder it will become to totally eradicate it in the future.
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#28
Bruce Bawer, at PJMedia, has pretty much given up on Sweden. He believes they are committing cultural seppuku. And if this continues on, the way it is currently going, I will agree with him.

Quote:The Terrifying Way Sweden Is Killing Itself

This is a country where rapes by Muslim men are systematically ignored by the authorities or responded to with minimal punishment. Routinely, Swedish courts refuse to return these monsters – some of whom have repeatedly subjected small boys and girls to violent sexual abuse – to their home countries for fear that they'll be put in danger. In other words, Swedish judges care more about the safety of foreign rapists than that of Swedish children.

It's a country where even prominent Swedish feminists – fanatical boosters of multiculturalism – are now moving out of Muslim-heavy neighborhoods not only because of the Muslim rapists but because of the Muslim “morality police,” who are less concerned with monitoring rapists than with controlling women's conduct. (One such feminist organized “coffee shop meetings” with Muslim male community leaders in an attempt to resolve the situation, but gave up.)

It's a country where the government rolls out the red carpet for returning ISIS members, giving them special benefits, in hopes that they'll see the light and put down their weapons.

It's a country where, while Muslim rapists and terrorists are forgiven, critics of immigrant conduct are punished. In May, a 70-year-old woman in Dalarna, Sweden, was arrested for writing on Facebook in 2015 about immigrants who “set cars on fire and urinate and defecate in the streets.” (She faces up to four years in prison.)

No surprise, then, that on July 7, Jyllands-Posten reported that the Swedish government plans to alter the nation's Constitution in such a way as to give itself the power to limit online free speech about precisely these ticklish matters. Among other things, wrote Jyllands-Posten, it will become illegal “for certain websites to publicize information about private persons' ethnicity or conviction of crimes.”

Of course: the best way to address the ever-rising tide of Muslim criminality is to close down every last media outlet that reports honestly about it. The mainstream Swedish media are already playing ball; it's just a few recalcitrant websites that need to be scrubbed clean. Presumably the next step will be to block access in Sweden to Jyllands-Posten and other foreign news sources that tell Swedes the truth about what's going on within their own borders.
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#29
It seems like Sweden needs another Gustavus Adolphus.
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#30
The US might need someone like that as well. Read from the US Army the timeline on the recent soldier who was an avid ISIS fan since at least 2011. Yet, he was active duty right up until 2 days ago:

https://www.armytimes.com/articles/event...sm-charges
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#31
...Less a leader, than a dearth of feckless bureaucrats, afraid to do their duty.
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#32
Here is a great example of why Sweden, and other Euros are headed for an immense fall in the future.

One of the rules is that minors who ask for asylum are immediately granted it. So it behooves young adult Muslims to claim they are minors, and....bingo, they are granted asylum. Here's where it becomes a witch hunt in the other direction, because someone did what he was instructed to do. The article is in Swedish, and the title of the translation is not good, so here is the gist of the thing.

Swedish Dental Hygenist notices fully grown wisdom teeth in asylum seekers claiming to be minors, reports that they are obviously not under 18. Loses job, loses apartment, ostracized.

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Euros had better get their acts together soonest, or they will be living in an Islamic Europe, and the 1000 year jihad will have been successful.
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#33
It's going to change. But the movement is coming from the base of the population and up to the ruling class. It takes time the ruling class understands the reality.
They first wanted all these migrants in. Then starts to notice some discontent in the european population. Then they will be discontent themselves of what they have done.

I started to believe that all these migrants are coming because of some political decision.
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#34
Here is yet one more example of the upcoming destruction of Sweden, and its society.

THE END OF SWEDEN: Scandinavian Country Legalizes Child Marriages For Muslim Immigrants

Quote:Sweden has legalized child marriages for immigrant pedophiles who wish to stay married to their underaged wives.

In a move criticised by many as promoting pedophilia, the Swedish government have defended their controversial decision saying that the huge influx of immigrants from polygamous and ‘sexually diverse’ cultures has resulted in a sensitive ‘humanitarian’ crisis.
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#35
No, they didn't legalized. They were supposed to separate the underage spouse, but they were not married legaly in Sweden and Sweden hasn't recognized their foreign marriage. they just allow the teenager girls to live with their husband.
They probably see nothing wrong in the situations, though I agree their decision was wrong. Separating them would have been complicated and expensive.

IMO it depends how old is the husband. If they are in the same age span, then it's tolerable.
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#36
Poor Sweden, they just can't seem to get thing right up there.    S13

Quote:ISIS Recruitment Song Airs On Swedish Radio Station After Broadcast Hijack

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An investigation is underway into the hijacking of a Swedish radio station after an ISIS recruitment song was broadcasted on its airwaves.

The song titled “For the Sake of Allah” suddenly started playing during a popular Swedish radio show this Friday morning.

The song lasted for nearly 30 minutes and urged sympathizers to join the terror group.

The station’s owner said the airwaves were taken over by an unknown party, and said authorities have launched an internal investigation.

Swedish government officials say hundreds of its citizens have joined the terror group in recent years.

Shocking moment IS recruitment song plays on hacked Swedish radio


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#37
If you live in Sweden, and get raped by one of the untold Muslim immigrants, you need to have a special camera to record it all. Or you could be out of luck. Spiteful

Swedish woman raped by refugee commits suicide after prosecutor claims “lack of evidence”
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#38
Sweden is in the news again: Meanwhile In Sweden, Crime Hits All Time Highs.  It appears President Trump, having warned that Sweden's huge intake of refugees would lead to "problems like they never thought possible," has been vindicated.

Quote:Bloomberg reports that the number of Swedes who were victims of crimes such as fraud and sexual offenses jumped to the highest level on record last year.

A survey by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention showed that 15.6 percent of people suffered one or more offences against the person (defined in the survey as assault, threats, sexual offences, robbery, fraud or harassment) last year. That’s up from 13.3 percent in 2015 and the highest number recorded since the annual Swedish Crime Survey started in 2006.

The number of offences against individuals “was at a relatively stable level 2005 to 2014, at 11.3 percent to 13.1 percent, but the last two years show an increase,” the council said in the report published this week.

Now... what changed in the last two years in Europe? ...
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