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The Destruction of Sweden
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(05-26-2017, 01:32 PM)WarBicycle Wrote: The province of Ontario used to permit religious tribunals to settle family disputes, then Muslims demanded they be allowed to establish Shariah-based tribunals similar to Jewish and Catholic arbitration bodies. Now no religious body has it as religious tribunals have been banned to prevent Sharia Law from being recognized in Ontario.

The Jewish and Catholic arbitration bodies deal with counseling. The Sharia Courts are presumptive. Caught stealing, lose a hand. Show your face, get stoned for being a whore. They don't stone goats, but they seem to be just as tempting.

Bad things always seem to ruin good things, don't they?
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#22
IMO even jewish or christian counceling tribunal or court or whatever religious legal body is anachronical and shouldn't exist in a modern society.
I don't want to be judged by poeple who think they know the law of God.
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#23
An effort to prevent recognition failed recently here in Colorado.  As far as I know, there wasn't actually any language directed at religious law ... only a statement that non-U.S. laws would not be allowed to supersede U.S. laws.  It was widely condemned as flawed and racist .. without actually pointing out any of the flaws ... or racism.  It's difficult for me to imagine that extra-judicial rulings that prompt efforts like this wouldn't be slam dunks for being overturned on appeal ... except maybe for the 9th and DCCA.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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(05-30-2017, 09:22 PM)mr_yak Wrote: An effort to prevent recognition failed recently here in Colorado.  As far as I know, there wasn't actually any language directed at religious law ... only a statement that non-U.S. laws would not be allowed to supersede U.S. laws.  It was widely condemned as flawed and racist .. without actually pointing out any of the flaws ... or racism.  It's difficult for me to imagine that extra-judicial rulings that prompt efforts like this wouldn't be slam dunks for being overturned on appeal ... except maybe for the 9th and DCCA.

Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to get a dose of reality, perhaps a bombing or two, and they will suddenly realize that they have been mugged by reality.
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(05-30-2017, 09:40 PM)John L Wrote: Perhaps they will be fortunate enough to get a dose of reality, perhaps a bombing or two, and they will suddenly realize that they have been mugged by reality.

I think in this particular context, I the shocker would probably come in the form of some sort of gruesome "honor killing" precipitated by a progressive judge that chose to not to issue a restraining order and forced some poor woman back to her abusive husband/father based on a community Imam's 'legal' edict demanding her return.  

Here's how it works in Britain ...
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
-- Henry Mencken
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#26
Most of these "anachronical" courts are similar to The Peoples' Court where litigants sign a contract to follow the advice of some televised Judge and get paid for appearing, hoping their payment will be greater than any penalty they must come up with. This is contract law - not criminal law, in that the participants are entertaining an audience, not obeying the law and its consequences. Sharia goes far beyond that.

An interview with a preacher is just looking for advice, trying to find an acceptable way to forgo going to court. With such an agreement, there are no entanglements. With Sharia, if one accepts the authority to rule on a minor disagreement, one also accepts all the ramifications, including the mandatory death to infidels. No in-between ground - all or nothing.
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(05-31-2017, 12:51 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Most of these "anachronical" courts are similar to The Peoples' Court where litigants sign a contract to follow the advice of some televised Judge and get paid for appearing, hoping their payment will be greater than any penalty they must come up with. This is contract law - not criminal law, in that the participants are entertaining an audience, not obeying the law and its consequences. Sharia goes far beyond that.

An interview with a preacher is just looking for advice, trying to find an acceptable way to forgo going to court. With such an agreement, there are no entanglements. With Sharia, if one accepts the authority to rule on a minor disagreement, one also accepts all the ramifications, including the mandatory death to infidels. No in-between ground - all or nothing.

And that is why Sharia law is totally unconstitutional, having no business here in the US. If they want to play with Sharia, then go home and play with it there.

The more we put up with this, the harder it will become to totally eradicate it in the future.
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#28
Bruce Bawer, at PJMedia, has pretty much given up on Sweden. He believes they are committing cultural seppuku. And if this continues on, the way it is currently going, I will agree with him.

Quote:The Terrifying Way Sweden Is Killing Itself

This is a country where rapes by Muslim men are systematically ignored by the authorities or responded to with minimal punishment. Routinely, Swedish courts refuse to return these monsters – some of whom have repeatedly subjected small boys and girls to violent sexual abuse – to their home countries for fear that they'll be put in danger. In other words, Swedish judges care more about the safety of foreign rapists than that of Swedish children.

It's a country where even prominent Swedish feminists – fanatical boosters of multiculturalism – are now moving out of Muslim-heavy neighborhoods not only because of the Muslim rapists but because of the Muslim “morality police,” who are less concerned with monitoring rapists than with controlling women's conduct. (One such feminist organized “coffee shop meetings” with Muslim male community leaders in an attempt to resolve the situation, but gave up.)

It's a country where the government rolls out the red carpet for returning ISIS members, giving them special benefits, in hopes that they'll see the light and put down their weapons.

It's a country where, while Muslim rapists and terrorists are forgiven, critics of immigrant conduct are punished. In May, a 70-year-old woman in Dalarna, Sweden, was arrested for writing on Facebook in 2015 about immigrants who “set cars on fire and urinate and defecate in the streets.” (She faces up to four years in prison.)

No surprise, then, that on July 7, Jyllands-Posten reported that the Swedish government plans to alter the nation's Constitution in such a way as to give itself the power to limit online free speech about precisely these ticklish matters. Among other things, wrote Jyllands-Posten, it will become illegal “for certain websites to publicize information about private persons' ethnicity or conviction of crimes.”

Of course: the best way to address the ever-rising tide of Muslim criminality is to close down every last media outlet that reports honestly about it. The mainstream Swedish media are already playing ball; it's just a few recalcitrant websites that need to be scrubbed clean. Presumably the next step will be to block access in Sweden to Jyllands-Posten and other foreign news sources that tell Swedes the truth about what's going on within their own borders.
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"INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - David Horowitz

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#29
It seems like Sweden needs another Gustavus Adolphus.
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#30
The US might need someone like that as well. Read from the US Army the timeline on the recent soldier who was an avid ISIS fan since at least 2011. Yet, he was active duty right up until 2 days ago:

https://www.armytimes.com/articles/event...sm-charges
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#31
...Less a leader, than a dearth of feckless bureaucrats, afraid to do their duty.
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