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Zika Virus: Is it Really the Main Cause of Microcephaly?
#1
I split this post off from the Ebola thread, because it appears that Zika Virus may not really be the main cause of Microcephaly as earlier believed.  And at worst, it may not be the main contributing cause.

The article in this original post actually caused me to begin thinking that perhaps there may be other reasons, and also that this is a scare that is overblown.  
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Now, if this is accurate, it could go a long way in calming the concerns of potential American, who may contract the Zinka Virus.

Quote:Colombia: 3,177 pregnant women with Zika; no microcephaly

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) — Colombia's President Juan Manuel Santos said Saturday that there's no evidence Zika has caused any cases of the birth defect known as microcephaly in his country, though it has diagnosed 3,177 pregnant women with the virus.

Santos also announced that a U.S. medical-scientific team will arrive in Colombia to help investigate the mosquito-borne virus.

Brazilian officials say they suspect Zika is behind a seemingly unusual number of microcephaly cases, in which children are born with unusually small heads. The link is not confirmed, but it has helped prompt the World Health Organization to declare an emergency over the virus.

Santos says Zika apparently has affected more than 25,600 Colombians overall.
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#2
Here are some of the examples I have come up with just today.

Brazil may have fewer Zika-related microcephaly cases than previously reported

Quote:On Wednesday, Brazil’s Ministry of Health said 4,180 cases of Zika-related microcephaly had been reported since October. The country is trying to find out which cases it could actually confirm from notifications provided by doctors — a slow and complicated process as the information is compiled and checked by health secretariats in 26 states and one federal district spread across South America’s biggest country.

After experts scrutinized 732 of the cases they found that more than half either weren’t microcephaly, or weren’t related to Zika.

Just 270 were confirmed as microcephaly that appears to be linked to Zika or other infectious diseases, according to the latest ministry bulletin.

It’s not yet clear whether the same pattern will emerge from the rest of the 3,448 cases that Brazil has to examine. And health experts say the huge number of cases is still very worrisome — as is the rapid spread of Zika through the Americas. (Brazil reported just 147 cases of microcephaly in 2014).

Microcephaly causes babies to be born with abnormally small heads, and can cause motor and learning difficulties, among other problems. The condition can also be caused by genetic factors or drug or alcohol abuse during pregnancy
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“It is possible that the number of cases of microcephaly with suspected relationship to Zika will be much less,” said Esper Kallas, an infectious diseases specialist and professor of medicine at the University of São Paulo. “I think it will be less than a third” of the possible cases that have been reported, he said.

Kallas also said the outbreak had made Brazil realize that microcephaly unrelated to Zika was more common than authorities realized in the past.


And this article begins by linking Zinka and microcephaly, but ends by adding plausible deniability to the original premises.


Quote:Of course, the simultaneous increase in the rate of Zika infections and the rate of microcephaly could be coincidental. Yet scientists know that there is a strong association between the Zika virus and microcephaly and there is the evidence of Zika transmission between mother and foetus.

However, to definitively prove that Zika virus causes microcephaly requires several more pieces of information. This includes determining if the affected children have other developmental problems which could associate the microcephaly with a genetic or chromosonal disorder, and monitoring women throughout their pregnancy to determine when the damage to the foetus is caused, as well as ruling out other causes.

Researchers will also need to carry out “case-control” studies that look at babies born with microcephaly in a Zika virus affected area (the “cases”) and compares them with children that don’t have microcephaly from the same area (the “controls”). Presence of the Zika virus will be determined in each of the groups. If the children with microcephaly all have the Zika virus but the unaffected children don’t, then this will suggest Zika virus does cause microcephaly. Sadly, this will take time.
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#3
And here, just today, in The Scientist is further cause for caution before charging out and spending billions of dollars for something that may be totally overblown,

Brazil’s Pre-Zika Microcephaly Cases
A review of four years’ worth of medical records finds far greater numbers of microcephaly cases from before the ongoing Zika virus epidemic than had been officially reported.


Quote:Another study of roughly 1,000 babies born in eight states in Brazil from July to December 2007 found the prevalence of microcephaly to be 2.8 percent. “The first step for public strategies to confront this pathology is proper diagnosis,” wrote the authors, who published their work in WHO’s Bulletin this week (February 8).

A February 5 article in The Lancet also brought up the need to standardize diagnostic criteria for microcephaly. “Although there is evidence of an increased number of cases of microcephaly in Brazil, we show that the number of suspected cases relied on a screening test that had very low specificity and therefore overestimated the actual number of cases by including mostly normal children with small heads,” wrote researchers from the Federal University of Pelotas, Brazil, and their colleagues.

Here is a classic example of why the science community should use more caution when pointing a finger at a perceived culprit, when there is a lack of evidence.

First, causation and correlation are not the same thing. And Secondly, having a smaller head is not indicative of microcephaly. My friend Michael, is a total sports fanatic, and watches ESPN as thought it was the Church of Christ. When I showed him this topic and the point about having small heads, he immediately brought up a Duke basketball payer with a tiny head. So I went looking for some pictures of the fellow, and here he is: Amile Jefferson

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Or how about Tony Trocha, of Kentucky?

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I'm aware of how wide angle lenses can cause distortion, but I looked over all sorts of pictures of these two, and they definitely have much smaller heads than their fellow players. Does this mean they are retarded, or deformed? Or are they just examples of the term "pin head"? S13
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I don't know much about this fellow, other than a Youtube video of him talking to Alex Jones about the virus, and discussing Jones' contention that this is not just a scam, but an intentional act associated with genetic engineering gone mad. He seems to be a little bit more levelheaded than Jones, so I believe he may be on to something here.

But where he looks at this as a scam of purpose, I view it as something real, but innocently blown out of proportion first, and then later piggybacking on the "Climate Change" issue. And since MacDaddy has stated that "Climate Change, i.e., Global Warming" is the most serious threat to world security, this is just one more result of a warming planet. Therefore, almost two billion dollars are needed, as a starting point, in order to combat this rising danger.

Here's his article, which looks almost completely accurate, short the scam part. Mainly, his suggestion of the unbelievably heavy use of pesticides, may be the real culprit for all this microcephaly scare. After all, Colombia is not going nuts on pesticides, and they have all those cases of Zika present in pregnant women, but no cases of microcephaly.

Is the dreaded Zika virus another giant scam?

Here's the part which really peaked my interest:

Quote:Back to the Zika virus: what actually is causing mothers to give birth to babies with very small heads and impaired brains? If this is indeed a fairly recent phenomenon, I would start with a deep and very specific investigation of the genetically engineered mosquitos that were recently released in Brazil to decimate the dengue-fever mosquitos.

Then I would pay attention to a report like this (Rio Times, 5/5/15, “Brazil Shown to Be Largest Global Consumer of Pesticides”):

“The use of pesticides in Brazil grew by more than 162 percent from 2000 to 2012, according to the latest report by the Brazilian Association of Collective Health (ABRASCO), making the country the number one consumer of pesticides in the world. According to the entity, the Brazilian agriculture sector purchased more than 823,000 tons of pesticides in 2012.”

“The ABRASCO report, titled ‘An Alert of the Impacts of Pesticides on Health’, was released last week in Rio de Janeiro. The report includes scientific studies including data from the National Cancer Institute that shows a direct link between the use of pesticides and health problems.”

A quote inside the report:

“Not only are we using more [pesticides] but we are using more powerful, stronger pesticides. We have been forced to import pesticides which were not even allowed in Brazil to combat pests which attacked GM soybean and cotton plants…”

“…22 of the fifty main active ingredients used in pesticides in Brazil today have been banned in most other countries. “

How about an in-depth investigation, on the ground, probing the connection between these pesticides and birth defects?

Or is it better, for the chosen few, to use a virus as a false cover story, in order to explain away horrendous damage from what amounts to chemical warfare?

****Try this study, published in Environmental Health Perspectives on July 1, 2011: “Urinary Biomarkers of Prenatal Atrazine Exposure…” Here is a quote referring to what is now being called a prime Zika effect:

“The presence versus absence of quantifiable levels of [the pesticide] atrazine or a specific atrazine metabolite was associated with fetal growth restriction… and small head circumference… Head circumference was also inversely associated with the presence of the herbicide metolachlor.”

Getting the picture?





Does anybody have any opinion on all this? I'd like to know what you think.
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#5
And here's more going on as the known world is getting ready for the next expected "Andromeda Strain" apocalypse.

Prepare for ‘Guerrilla Warfare’ With Zika-Carrying Mosquitoes, Experts Warn

Hawaii governor signs emergency proclamation on Zika, other illnesses
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#6
It's possible that they use it as a cover up for pesticide dammages. Foetal malformation is typical to pesticides, as well as cancer. It's not typical to dengue fever or other viral infections.
+ the mother would have to be ill for 9 months or at least several months when the brain is being formed. Unlikely.
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#7
German Measles is known to cause birth defects, and the mother does not have to be sick for nine months for the defects to occur. There is a sequential progression in the development of a fetus. Anything that interrupts that sequential progression at any point can cause any kind of damage.
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#8
This is going to be worth keeping an eye on, as well as Colombia.

Venezuela faces ‘worst-case scenario’ as Zika outbreak expands

I'm not sure if Venezuela uses large amounts of pesticides, but if it doesn't, and the number of microcephaly are not abnormally high, chances are that there is a direct correlation between both pesticides and microcephaly: not Zika virus.
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#9
And for the very latest on the medical scare of the month,

Mexican woman with Zika gives birth to healthy child

Quote:A woman with a confirmed case of the Zika virus in the southern state of Chiapas gave birth to a "clinically healthy" baby boy, Mexico's health ministry said.
The woman, from the town of Pijijiapan, delivered the six pound (2.8 kilo) boy in a hospital in the city of Tuxtla Gutierrez on Friday.

After an evaluation, the hospital's pediatric center "confirmed that [the infant] is clinically healthy," the health ministry said in a statement late Friday.
The woman is one of six known to have contracted Zika while pregnant.

The other five women "are in good health, they are receiving specialized continuous care and are undergoing periodic ultrasound tests," the statement read.
Two of the women are beyond their 28th week of pregnancy, and several tests show no sign that they are carrying a fetus with microcephaly. The other three have still not reached the 28 week mark, the statement read.
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#10
It may make a difference at what point in the pregnancy the mother contracts the Zika virus. There may be individual differences in resistance to the effects of the Zika virus. But a statistical correlation beyond random chance of a relation between Zika infection or any other kind of disease and birth defects, is something it would be insane to ignore.
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#11
From what I've seen, there has been no documentation of any statistical correlation.
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#12
It has been claimed that there is such a correlation, by responsible authorities. If you don't want to believe it (and of course responsible authorities are not always right), I think the burden of proof is on you. The well-being of the unborn is at stake. Maybe that doesn't matter in a country that has murdered 85 million babies since Roe Vs. Wade, but it should matter.
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#13
Columbia's Santos said 3,107 pregnant women have the Zika virus but no microencephaly has been seen.
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#14
Is all the evidence in yet?
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(02-20-2016, 08:28 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Is all the evidence in yet?

Evidently the verdict is.
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#16
Who pronounced the verdict?
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(02-22-2016, 07:08 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Who pronounced the verdict?

...Every single media report on it.
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#18
Here's the next possibility that the authorities are beginning to throw out, just in case the Microcephaly connection proves to be a dead end.

Zika has been linked to birth defects. Now it may be causing paralysis.

Quote:TURBO, Colombia – The Zika epidemic flaring across the Americas has produced several hot spots with large numbers of cases. But there is no place quite like Turbo.

The mosquito-borne virus has spread rapidly here and across lowland Colombia, but the city is unusual for the subsequent outbreak of a rare, debilitating disorder known as Guillain-Barre syndrome, whose precise link to the virus remains unclear. Before Zika’s arrival in Turbo, a mostly Afro-Colombian town of 60,000 set amid vast banana plantations on the country’s north coast, doctors typically saw one case of Guillain-Barre a year, if that.

I wonder if anyone has done a search for more possible cases of Zika related Guillain-Barre syndrome in places like Brazil? It would seem to me that if there isn't, then logic would be that.......................................... Spiteful

And not to be outdone, there is this from the Huffington Post.

The Latest On Zika: Infection In Utero May Trigger Mental Illness
Infections during pregnancy could increase kids' risk for schizophrenia, autism and bipolar disorder.


Quote:3. Zika virus may cause future mental illness in babies who appear to be normal

Because Zika virus appears to be causing physical brain defects in infants, researchers believe the disease could also ultimately affect the mental health of children who appear to be born healthy, reports the New York Times. In other words, not all of the ways it affects the brain may be as immediately obvious as microcephaly.

There is increasing evidence that exposure in utero to infections like rubella, herpes and flu may potentially contribute to higher rates of schizophrenia, autism and bipolar disorder, the Times notes. Scientists need to do more research to see what, if any, link there may be between Zika virus exposure in utero and mental health issues later on in a child's life.
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(04-21-2016, 07:06 PM)WmLambert Wrote: So when confronted with the eradication of all mosquitoes, there are at least 10,000 internet idiots who signed a petition to prevent the trial. 

Here.

When Ruckleshaus, under Carter, ignored the findings of a seven-month-long court of science and outlawed DDT, he killed more innocent victims than all the World wars and police actions. With safe DDT being used, Malaria was over. The EPA hearing examiner, Judge Edmund Sweeney, concluded that "DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to man... DDT is not a mutagenic or teratogenic hazard to man... The use of DDT under the regulations involved here do not have a deleterious effect on freshwater fish, estuarine organisms, wild birds or other wildlife." In little more than two decades, DDT prevented 500 million human deaths. Maybe one or two deaths worldwide. Without DDT, which was proved NOT dangerous to Peregrine Falcons and brown pelicans, the death tolls rose to the old levels.

Rachel Carson was famous for her book, "Silent Spring", in which she flagrantly lied with her statistics and numbers won the day. Ruckelshaus never attended a single hour of the seven months of EPA hearings on DDT. Ruckelshaus' aides reported he did not even read the transcript of the EPA hearings on DDT. He certainly read her book. (Round of applause for another Democrat politician fouling the nest.)

With all the epidemics being caused by the little blood suckers - there have been no outcry of bad effects that might happen because of their eradication. Maybe those 10,000 idiots who signed the on-line petition are Chiropteraphiles. There may be a connection between Democrats and Vampires.


I agree with your point about DDT.  But the article is typical stuff put out by the "Enemedia".  I saw this word the other day and it is Right On!  They're also Whores.  

Here's what I mean: 

Your dream of a world without mosquitoes is one step closer to coming true - Oh really?  Just who is stating that one?

Destroying the mosquito population may soon become more than just a dream for the bug-averse.

Then pretty Emma clarifies this by stating that the they want to "cut down on the Aedes aegypti strain".    Well, that's more like it, and even at its most successful.  But eradication?  Give me a break!  

Oh, on an aside, note that the graphic in the article is from the Brazil Ministry of Health.  And can you guess where all this "Microcepahly scare is coming from?  

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I've got to go back and root around some more just to see if there really is more reported cases, in other countries than Brazil.  After all, what does Brazil have that is different from other countries?  How about the over use of pesticides in an unreal amount.   And look at the proclaimed percentages reported.  Does anyone in their right mind believe this for one moment, when confronted with the real facts?  3,530 confirmed cases?  Really?!

Oh, I totally forgot.  Bureaucrats and politicians, realizing they have a golden opportunity, naturally tend to believe this.  Just think of all the possibilities here.
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Ok, here's the latest news in then "Zika virus, causing Microcephaly" campaign.  

First baby with Zika-related microcephaly born in Florida: Mother came to Florida from Haiti to deliver child, health officials say

And note that the mother came here from Haiti just to pop out a little American citizen, to be used for future reference.  

Quote:- The Florida Department of Health confirms the first Zika-related microcephaly birth in Florida.

The birth mother is a Haitian national who came to Florida to give birth. She was infected with the Zika virus in Haiti.

Officials will not disclose the hospital where the woman gave birth.

Gov. Rick Scott and Florida Surgeon General Celeste Philip participated in a Zika roundtable discussion in Palm Beach County Tuesday morning to discuss the issue.

"I've asked the CDC to do another phone call with all of our health care providers so they can continue to educate the public," Scott said. "You heard just in our conversation here: the most important thing is all of us are responsible. We've got to get rid of the standing water so we don't have these mosquitoes breed in our yard or anywhere we are. If we can stop the mosquitoes, we can make sure that we don't have an expansion of more Zika cases in our state."

There have previously been two other Zika-related microcephaly births in the United States, one in Hawaii and one in New Jersey, according to a DOH representative.

Got that?  Only three cases so far.  Naturally, I'm a skeptic about practically everything, and especially where government, and the Whores in the media are concerned.   So I did a little digging around in order to find out the number of recorded cases of microcephaly in the US on a yearly basis.   This from the Boston Children's Hospital on microcephaly.

-Microcephaly is often (but not always) congenital, meaning it is already present at birth.

-Other times, a child is born with a normal brain and skull, but then his brain fails to develop properly during his infancy.

-A traumatic brain injury or infection can also lead to microcephaly.

-Microcephaly is relatively rare, affecting about 25,000 children in the U.S. each year.

All this comes from a position paper in the American Academy of Neurology, September, 2009.  Note that within the Abstract is the following: "Microcephaly is an important neurologic sign but there is nonuniformity in its definition and evaluation. Microcephaly may result from any insult that disturbs early brain growth and can be seen in association with hundreds of genetic syndromes. Annually, approximately 25,000 infants in the United States will be diagnosed with microcephaly (head circumference <−2 SD)"

So,.....we have had three cases of microcephaly reported in three states, where the mother had zika virus.  But what about the rest of all the microcephaly cases throughout the states?  How many had "fill in the blank" and is not being reported.  

This is Junk Science, just as is with all this AGW-Climate Change crap.  Its just one more way for politicians and the media to make a name for themselves, and show that they really, really care, and are going to legislate further in order to do something about this horrible threat.  

Junk Science!  And I am not alone in this either.  Here's someone else, who is disgusted by this crap.  And keep in mind that I just discovered this post about 30 minutes ago.  I don't know Squat about this Jon Rappaport fellow: never heard of this guy before.  But he sounds Just Like Me here.  He's not fooled either!

Quote:Busted: 25,000 cases of microcephaly in the US per year Jan

Moving on: 25,000 cases, not just once, but every year in the US, means what? Christopher Columbus actually brought the Zika virus to America in 1492, and it lay dormant for a very long time and then, in the modern age, exploded on the scene in the US?

No. 25,000 cases a year in the US means we’re being treated to an unsupported major bullshit story right now.

That’s what it means.

In a previous article on Zika, I laid out my top six causes for microcephaly in Brazil. None of them was the virus. I cited a study that revealed a link between the pesticide atrazine and microcephaly. Then there is Roundup. In another previous piece, I cited a study linking that herbicide to microcephaly. Etc., etc.

If you carefully read stories in the mainstream press these days, you’ll notice that even there the Zika hypothesis is shaky, to say the least. Here’s a sprinkle:

Start with a paragraph buried in a Reuters story headlined, “Race for Zika vaccine gathers momentum as virus spreads”:

Quote:“Zika had been viewed as a relatively mild illness until Brazilian health officials identified it as a matter of concern for pregnant women. While a direct causal relationship has not been established, scientists strongly suspect a link between Zika and thousands of children born in Brazil with abnormally small heads, brain defects and impaired vision.”

No causal relationship established. Scientists strongly suspect. Well, that does it. That seals the deal. I strongly suspect ants eating brown pears will enable them to pilot spaceships to the rim of the Milky Way.

The article continues:

Quote:“A 2007 [Zika] outbreak on Yap Islands in Micronesia is estimated to have affected nearly 75% of the population of some 12,000 people, and a 2013 outbreak in French Polynesia affected nearly 28,000 of 270,000 residents. Neither epidemic caused a spike in microcephaly [small baby heads, brain damage].”

Who cares? Just assert Zika is the cause of microcephaly. Just say it is. That’s enough, isn’t it? Oranges cause cancer. Gluten-free bread causes polio.

The BBC, January 28, “Zika virus: Up to four million Zika cases predicted”:

Quote:“…there has been a steep rise in levels of microcephaly – babies born with abnormally small heads – and the rare nervous system disorder Guillain-Barre syndrome. The link between the virus and these disorders has not been confirmed, but Dr. Chan [Director General of the World Health Organization] said it was ‘strongly suspected’ and was ‘deeply alarming’.”

I may strongly suspect something and then be deeply alarmed by it, but I’m not going to call it science. Dr. Chan follows a different path. Well, she’s a General. That confers certain privileges, doesn’t it? Troops, maps, GPS satellites, UN dollars.

If she really wants to do something valuable, here’s my suggestion. I know she won’t, but… send down a hundred truly independent scientists and techs, and have them test all those Brazilian mothers who’ve given birth to babies with small heads and brain damage. And test the babies, too. Forget the useless antibody and PCR procedures. Take blood and tissue samples and put them under an electron microscope. See if you notice lots and lots of Zika viruses—that is, if you even know what Zika looks like. If you don’t find lots of Zika—and I’m betting you won’t—pack it up, come home, and start thinking about why the virus is being used as a cover story for what is really causing microcephaly. Then you might actually get somewhere.

But getting somewhere isn’t the job of the World Health Organization. Lying is.
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