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Nigel Farage, UKIP and EU Membership
#81
The European Union is a construct that is understood by few(I include myself among the clueless).

No elected member of the European Parliament may bring forth legislation. All matters are brought forth by the European Commission which is a bunch of lard bottom anonymous bureaucrats that follow their long ago written playbooks as they feather their nests.

Sweden not being part of the MU is a small but welcome consolation for Sweden being part of the EU.
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#82
Sigh..........................'MU'? What is the meaning of this wonderful acronym?
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#83
Monetary Union as a guess, albeit it is not on the list Gah
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#84
(04-19-2014, 12:17 PM)John L Wrote: Sigh..........................'MU'? What is the meaning of this wonderful acronym?

(04-19-2014, 12:53 PM)mv Wrote: Monetary Union as a guess, albeit it is not on the list Gah

Oh John, not sure with what we are suppose to do with you...

mv is clued in. Perhaps you should consider taking out 'futures' on vowels.
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#85
No, the problem is not me. The problem is laziness, pure and simple. I can see a few, provided everyone knows what they are, such as IMO, STFU, or some others. But this constant making shortcuts is highly frustrating. This is the same thing as butchering proper words, to be other things for convenience. Things such as 'gender', 'liberal', and others. Those are intellectual laziness, whereas the former are just plain simple laziness of actions.

It drives me nuts. Hey, if I quit this, you will know that I have stopped reading the post, and don't care one way or the other. And if the posts are not being read, then why post in the first place? Gah
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(04-19-2014, 01:53 PM)John L Wrote: No, the problem is not me. The problem is laziness, pure and simple. I can see a few, provided everyone knows what they are, such as IMO, STFU, or some others. But this constant making shortcuts is highly frustrating. This is the same thing as butchering proper words, to be other things for convenience. Things such as 'gender', 'liberal', and others. Those are intellectual laziness, whereas the former are just plain simple laziness of actions.

It drives me nuts. Hey, if I quit this, you will know that I have stopped reading the post, and don't care one way or the other. And if the posts are not being read, then why post in the first place? Gah

...well you point out STFU which I can see as applicable when individuals casting a casual gaze at things outside their normal comfort zone where the common vernacular for that science or discipline is spoken.

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#87
Oh, I Hate Acronyms with a passion. There should really be a law somewhere.........................................................
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#88
I hope you do realize that persistent complains about acronyms only breed more acronyms?
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(04-19-2014, 03:44 PM)mv Wrote: I hope you do realize that persistent complains about acronyms only breed more acronyms?

And I have the ability to have the last word, one way or the other. S22
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#90
but using it would be too fascist to even consider S26
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(04-19-2014, 03:46 PM)John L Wrote:
(04-19-2014, 03:44 PM)mv Wrote: I hope you do realize that persistent complains about acronyms only breed more acronyms?

And I have the ability to have the last word, one way or the other. S22

(ie)?
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#92
People who use Acronyms : Pussy Riot = JohnL : Putin. S6
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(04-19-2014, 04:04 PM)Paul In Sweden Wrote:
(04-19-2014, 03:46 PM)John L Wrote:
(04-19-2014, 03:44 PM)mv Wrote: I hope you do realize that persistent complains about acronyms only breed more acronyms?

And I have the ability to have the last word, one way or the other. S22

(ie)?

No, 'i.e.' is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase meaning "That is". Its not an acronym.
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#94
Sorry John, but while it is true I.E. stands for a latin phrase that means "that is," the actual latin words are id est. Which means that I.E. is indeed an acronym. There is no escape!

Acronyms such as laser, radar, and NATO have already virtually become accepted words. Who today would bother to write "Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation? In fact, laser has actually become a noun, so we can say "They shot down the target with a laser." Or, "We use lasers to read price codes in the supermarket, and to read music and movies from optical disks." (I hesitate to say, CD's and DVD's.) S1
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(04-19-2014, 06:29 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Sorry John, but while it is true I.E. stands for a latin phrase that means "that is," the actual latin words are id est. Which means that I.E. is indeed an acronym. There is no escape!

Acronyms such as laser, radar, and NATO have already virtually become accepted words. Who today would bother to write "Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation? In fact, laser has actually become a noun, so we can say "They shot down the target with a laser." Or, "We use lasers to read price codes in the supermarket, and to read music and movies from optical disks." (I hesitate to say, CD's and DVD's.) S1

Sorry Ron, but it is really an 'abbreviation', not an anronym.
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#96
In hope of providing clarity, further obscurity & levity to the current topic I offer this distraction:



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#97
"i.e." is both an acronym and an abbreviation. The periods and space make it an abbreviation, but when it's usage is as a term unto itself, rather than standing in for other words, it becomes an acronym, neh? Even whole words become charged with assumed meaning. Xerox was a company - now it's the thing that company started.
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#98
Here's yet one more reason why Farage is doing the Lord's work in trying to get the UK out of the EU. Its from the Institute of Economic Affairs(UK), a free market think tank in London.

The United Kingdom: Exiting the European Union-pdf

Here's an outline of the article:

Quote:The United Kingdom should leave the European Union, says Iain Mansfield, director of trade and investment at the United Kingdom's embassy in the Philippines.

Mansfield advocates the passage of a "Leaving the EU" bill. Under the terms of the Lisbon Treaty, member states must notify the European Council of their intent to leave the European Union. Two years after that notification, the EU treaties cease to apply to that country.

Additionally, he calls for a "Great Repeal Bill," which would conduct a review of all EU-related regulations and would repeal those that are burdening both the public and the private sector. For example:

-The Working Time Directive, which governs the maximum work week, should be repealed. Repeal would give workers and employers more flexibility and it would reduce recordkeeping bureaucracy.

-The EU ban on pesticides and fertilizers is largely based on hazard (simply looking at the severity of what could happen) rather than risk, which actually looks at the likelihood of something happening. These regulations should be replaced with ones that employ a scientific risk-based approach.

-An EU directive establishing binding renewable energy targets should also be repealed. The rules reduce flexibility and do not allow member states to respond to changing circumstances and needs.

If the United Kingdom were to leave the European Union, Mansfield projects that the economy would see a £1.3 billion increase in its gross domestic product. And because it is a net contributor to the European Union, exiting will give the United Kingdom a £10 billion surplus, which should be used to reduce the budget deficit. Some of those funds would need to be spent on administrative costs in areas that had previously been under EU control.

The United Kingdom would have to put a great deal of energy into developing new trade agreements, as trade negotiations for EU states are conducted by the European Commission.

Furthermore, here's a whole world outside the EU.

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Apr 23, 2014 UKIP European election broadcast, April 2014


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I'm a bit disturbed by the latest Kaplan, Why the European Union Will Survive.

He tends to be intelligent... is it possible that we are not seeing things right?
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