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The Religious Significance of America
#41
Good grief Ron, what did Jesus mean when He said that? Did He mean the opposite of what He stated? It's a perfectly normal question. Do we need to read the Revelation to know what John 3:16 or Ezekiel 16:1 mean, too?

If you don't want to say anything beyond "agree with me on Revelation", drop it.
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#42
The whole Bible is what I stand on. Nothing less is adequate. It is you who are making Jesus contradict Himself, because you refuse to admit you are mistaken in the interpretation you are making of Matthew 24:21.

Let me give a different example of how resolving a superficially apparent contradiction can lead to greater insight. You will recall what the Apostle John said: "No one has seen God at any time." (John 1:18; 1 John 4:12)

But if you happen to read Exodus 24:9-11, you find what seems to be a direct contradiction: "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink."

So, here do you behave like the superficial unbeliever and run off saying you've found a direct contradiction in the Bible? Or do you dig a little deeper. If you do, you will discover something vitally important: It is the Son of God who is the only member of the Trinity who has ever appeared in Person to human beings, from Adam onward.

As John went on to say, in John 1:18 (NKJV): "No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him."

So who walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden? Who spoke to Moses out of the burning bush? Who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger?

It was Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God.

As for what John said, that no man has seen God at any time--obviously, John was referring to the Father. It is God the Father who has never appeared to any man. Every interaction of Deity with the human race throughout all Bible history, has always been God the Son appearing to humans.

You see, you always have to let Scripture explain itself, comparing together every passage that relates to a given topic.

Another example would be Deuteronomy 6:4, which declares "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" Long have the Jews criticized the Christian view that Jesus is the Eternal Son of God, accusing Christians of being polytheists because they believe in the Trinity. But this extreme and superficial interpretation of the Jews is contradicted by Psalms 110:1, which says: "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Who is David calling his Lord (adon) whom the Lord God (YHWH) addresses here? And what about the fact that throughout the Creation account in Genesis chapter one, the word used for God, (elohim) is plural, and in Genesis 1:26 the Creator says "Let us make man in our image."

You can answer for yourself how much of a difference it may make in your thinking, if you realize that it was Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger on tables of stone, and gave them to Moses. The Son of God in the Old Testament is the same Person who became incarnated in human flesh in the New Testament, to live among us. So when Jesus said, "If you love Me, keep My commandments" (John 14:15)--to which commandments was He referring?

You see how this understanding ties many things together, and makes them plain and simple.
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#43
Never mind. Have a nice day anyway.
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#44
Here is an address that Rabbi Jonathan Cahn recently made to a gathering of members of Congress. He was introduced by Mike Huckabee, who recommended his book, The Harbinger:

"Only two civilizations in human history came into existence dedicated from conception to the will and purposes of God. The first was called 'Israel.' And the second was called 'America.' America was to be a city on a hill, a light to the world--from the words of the Jewish Rabbi from Nazareth. And God blessed this nation as no nation has ever been blessed to unparalled heights of prosperity and power.

"On America's first day came a prophetic warning. It was this: 'The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself hath ordained.' In other words, if America ever turns away from God, if it ever disregards the Word and ways of God, then the smiles of heaven, the blessings of God, will be removed from this land.

"We stand tonight on Capitol Hill in the city named after the one who gave that prophetic warning to ask: Can a nation drive out the name of God from its public squares, and the Word of God from its schools, and the ways of God from its culture--and still expect the smiles of heaven to remain? Can the blood of fifty million unborn children cry out to Heaven from this land and the smiles of Heaven still remain?

"Members of Congress, can a government call "disgusting" good and good "disgusting" and forge laws that war against the laws of the Almighty and the smiles of Heaven still remain? Supreme Court Justices--can you strike down the statutes of the Almighty and overturn the judgements of the Most High and still expect the smiles of Heaven to remain? And Mr. President, can you place your left hand on the Word of God to assume your office and then with your right hand sign laws* that break the very Word upon which you swore and still expect the smiles of Heaven to remain?

"The voice of our first president cries out: 'Return America, and I will have mercy on you.' And tonight we bear witness from Capitol Hill that the warning of our first president is true. And that our hope is not in the White House, not in the Supreme Court, not in the Capitol, not in Wall Street, or any other thing. Our hope is in the Living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Our hope is in Yeshua Ha Mashiach--Jesus the Messiah--the same yesterday, today and forever--to Him alone was this nation dedicated--and in Him alone lies its salvation....

"Let the will of God be done. Let the name of God be lifted up. And let the city on the hill shine again with the light of the fire of the glory of the living God--in the name of Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah, the Light of the World--the glory of Israel--and the hope of these United States of America. So help us God...."

[*Apparently Rabbi Cahn was unaware that President Obama is left-handed.]
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#45
Quote:"Let the will of God be done. Let the name of God be lifted up. And let the city on the hill shine again with the light of the fire of the glory of the living God--in the name of Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah, the Light of the World--the glory of Israel--and the hope of these United States of America. So help us God...."

Wow, I just looked him up and he is indeed a Messianic Jew. Congratulations rabi. S22
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