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Islam in Germany
#21
The so-called sophisticated Europeans have committed genocide twice in the past seventy years; first against the Jews and then against Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. The silent majority in Europe has had it with the socialists responsible for their Muslim problem and will eventually retaliate.
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#22
Quote:then against Muslims in the former Yugoslavia.

Utter nonsense. What happened in former Yugoslavia did not amount to genocide *on any side*, crimes -- yes, ethnic cleansing -- yes. And the ethnic cleansing bordering on genocide and directed against the Serbs at the end of the conflict was primarily work of the Sodomite Entity, not the Europeans (albeit Croatian neo-fascists and Islamists did the dirry work).
Sodomia delenda est

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#23
International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia
Finding of Genocide at Srebrenica
Main article: Srebrenica massacre
In 2001, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) judged that the 1995 Srebrenica massacre was genocide.[24] In the unanimous ruling "Prosecutor v. Krstić", the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), located in The Hague, reaffirmed that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide,[25] the Presiding Judge Theodor Meron stating:

By seeking to eliminate a part of the Bosnian Muslims, the Bosnian Serb forces committed genocide. They targeted for extinction the forty thousand Bosnian Muslims living in Srebrenica, a group which was emblematic of the Bosnian Muslims in general. They stripped all the male Muslim prisoners, military and civilian, elderly and young, of their personal belongings and identification, and deliberately and methodically killed them solely on the basis of their identity.[26]

In September 2006, former Bosnian Serb leader Momcilo Krajišnik was found guilty of multiple instances of crimes against humanity, but while the ICTY judges found that there was evidence that crimes committed in Bosnia constituted the criminal act of genocide (actus reus), they did not establish that the accused possessed genocidal intent, or was part of a criminal enterprise that had such an intent (mens rea).[27]

Finding of Genocide at Žepa
In the case of Tolimir, the International Criminal Tribunal has concluded that genocide was committed in the enclave of Žepa, outside of Srebrenica.[8]

Milošević Trial
On 16 June 2004, in 'Prosecutor v. Slobodan Milošević: Decision on Motion for Judgement of Acquittal', the ICTY Trial Chamber refused to acquit former Serbian president Slobodan Milošević on the same grounds, and ruled:

246. On the basis of the inference that may be drawn from this evidence, a Trial Chamber could be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that there existed a joint criminal enterprise, which included members of the Bosnian Serb leadership, whose aim and intention was to destroy a part of the Bosnian Muslim population, and that genocide was in fact committed in Brčko, Prijedor, Sanski Most, Srebrenica, Bijeljina, Ključ and Bosanski Novi. The genocidal intent of the Bosnian Serb leadership can be inferred from all the evidence, including the evidence set out in paragraphs 238 -245. The scale and pattern of the attacks, their intensity, the substantial number of Muslims killed in the seven municipalities, the detention of Muslims, their brutal treatment in detention centres and elsewhere, and the targeting of persons essential to the survival of the Muslims as a group are all factors that point to genocide.[28]

On 26 February 2007, however, in Bosnia and Herzegovina v. Serbia and Montenegro, the United Nations International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was no evidence linking Serbia under the rule of Milošević to genocide committed by Bosnian Serbs in the Bosnian War. However, the court did find that Milošević and others in Serbia did not do enough to prevent acts of genocide from occurring in Srebrenica.[29]

Ongoing Bosnian Genocide Trial
Currently, former Bosnian Serb leaders Radovan Karadžić and Ratko Mladić are both on trial on two counts of genocide and other war crimes committed in Srebrenica, Prijedor, Ključ, and other municipalities of Bosnia. Karadžić and Mladić are charged, separately, with:

Count 1: Genocide. – Municipalities: Bratunac, Foča, Ključ, Kotor Varoš, Prijedor, Sanski Most, Vlasenica and Zvornik. Initially dismissed by the Trial Chamber on 28 June 2012,[30] this count was unanimously reinstated on 11 July 2013 by the Appeals Chamber. The Appeals Chamber concluded, inter alia, that the Trial Chamber erred by finding that evidence adduced by the Prosecution was incapable of proving certain types of genocidal acts as well as relevant genocidal intent by Karadžić.[31]

Count 2: Genocide. – Municipality: Srebrenica.

Count 3: Persecutions on Political, Racial and Religious Grounds, a Crime Against Humanity. – Municipalities: Banja Luka, Bijeljina, Bosanska Krupa, Bosanski Novi, Bratunac, Brčko, Foča, Hadžići, Ilidža, Kalinovik, Ključ, Kotor Varoš, Novi Grad, Novo Sarajevo, Pale, Prijedor, Rogatica, Sanski Most, Sokolac, Trnovo, Vlasenica, Vogošća, Zvornik and Srebrenica.

Count 4: Extermination, a Crime Against Humanity.

Count 5: Murder, a Crime Against Humanity.

Count 6: Murder, a Violation of the Laws or Customs of War.

Count 7: Deportation, a Crime Against Humanity.

Count 8: Inhumane Acts (forcible transfer), a Crime Against Humanity.

Count 9: Acts of Violence the Primary Purpose of which is to Spread Terror among the Civilian Population, a Violation of the Laws or Customs of War.

Count 10: Unlawful Attacks on Civilians, a Violation of the Laws or Customs of War.

Count 11: Taking of Hostages, a Violation of the Laws or Customs of War.[32][33]

Involvement of Serbia
On 26 February 2007, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found Serbia to be innocent of genocide as committed at Srebrenica in July 1995.[34]

On 28 February 2013, the ICTY Court of Appeals overturned a conviction of guilty for JNA (Yugoslav National Army) Chief of Staff Momcilo Perisic for crimes committed in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia and ordered Perisic's immediate release.[35] His acquittal means that, to date, no official or army officer of Serbia-Montenegro (Yugoslavia) and no member of the JNA or VJ high command has ever been convicted by the ICTY for war-crimes committed in Bosnia.[36]

On 30 May 2013, the ICTY acquitted and ordered the immediate release of Jovica Stanisic and Franko Simatovic, two close aides of Slobodan Milosevic. Stanisic was the Chief of the Serbian State Security Service while Simatovic was in charge of the special operations arm of the State Security Service.[37]
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#24
This should make Fred a happy camper. Merry Christmas Fred. S5
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#25
(12-24-2014, 04:34 PM)mv Wrote:
Quote:then against Muslims in the former Yugoslavia.

Utter nonsense. What happened in former Yugoslavia did not amount to genocide *on any side*, crimes -- yes, ethnic cleansing -- yes. And the ethnic cleansing bordering on genocide and directed against the Serbs at the end of the conflict was primarily work of the Sodomite Entity, not the Europeans (albeit Croatian neo-fascists and Islamists did the dirry work).

Everyone forgets about the Ustase.
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#26
JohnL Wrote:This should make Fred a happy camper. Merry Christmas Fred.
Hi, Thanks. ...and merry christmass to you too. ...And to others.

Well, in this case I disagree with the muslim. The crucifix shouldn't have been vandalized, but removed completely in the dark of the night. (maybe the muslim didn't know that you don't cut wood with a metal cutting disc - aka angle grinder and failed to do so?)
This cheap plywood work is pissing ugly!
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#27
I bet ole Churchill would have become a Muslim if he could have led Turkey:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...paign=1490
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#28
Following the steps of Lawrence of Arabia?
It was just a fashion at this time...
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#29
Oh Poppycock! Infatuation and close interest tend to run along parallel courses, and I suspect what his staunch, and ruthlessly stiffnecked, family friends were preempting against any possible romance with Islam. "Can't have that, don't-you-know" outlook.

This seems to be yet one more attempt to water down any backlash against the influx of Muslims moving into jolly ole' England, by showing that even the hardest rock of the Hard Rock Conservatives was a Real Friend of the Glorious Islam movement. Poppycock! S24
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#30
It's a letter from his family member urging him not to convert. Who cares why you're reading it now?

No chance he'd really have converted, his religion was the man he saw in his mirror, but, he'd have loved to have a warrior like people group to lead that were true believers in spreading the power of the state by violence because they thought God wanted them to.

Unfortunately, he had one. Just like us. The only difference is there is nothing within Christian theology that accepts aggrandizing oneself with violence and there is in Islam if it's for Allah.
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#31
Quote:This seems to be yet one more attempt to water down any backlash....

I would not go quite this far w/o some evidence, but otherwise agree..... family members often have unbased concerns of all kinds..... real evidence of him considering a conversion would have found its way into his writing somehow.....

Now about Palladin.... and his writings..... S13 ....
Sodomia delenda est

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#32
Which ones? They are extensive!
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#33
Napoleon almost converted to Islam. He even pretended to the Egyptians that he did. So the fears that WC could do it too were serious.

... and it's not Palladin who will disagree that the West circa 1917 were behaving quite like the muslims in the M-E today.
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#34
Correct, the cultural differences between all of us are miniscule when the veneer is lifted.

No need to delineate the crimes any of us commit. We all are guilty when under stress.
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#35
You may want to check on PEGIDA expanding into Norway and Spain.

Meanwhile, good news from Merkel!

Merkel: Anti-Semitism is our government and civic duty. (Link in German)
Sodomia delenda est

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#36
Two things I don't like about PEDIGA and similar groups, like Generation Identitaire in France:

1/ "We are not racist, we are not fascist" (but they all vote Marine Lepen anyway)

2/ They strike the wrong target. European Islamism is not the problem, or if it's a problem, the root cause is in arab countries.

Radical Islamism in Europe is an import from M-E countries such as Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Algeria etc... some from Iran too.
You can't fight, let alone defeat the rise of Islam and Islamism in Europe if you don't fight it first in arab countries.

I'm not saying it's bad to combat Islam in Europe. I mean that the wake-up message shouldn't be "Beware of all the muslims in Dresden!".

The wake-up message should be: "Stop IS and it's religion!"
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#37
(01-15-2015, 03:35 PM)mv Wrote: You may want to check on PEGIDA expanding into Norway and Spain.

Meanwhile, good news from Merkel!

Merkel: Anti-Semitism is our government and civic duty. (Link in German)

Micheal, I have an observation and also a question. I know you are able to translate pages, just as I am. And you sometimes post them translated. But most of the time you don't translate.

I've noticed that those you translate tend to buttress your POV, but the nontranslated tend to be the opposite.

Is there any reason why you do/don't do this? S13
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#38
Quote:I've noticed that those you translate tend to buttress your POV, but the nontranslated tend to be the opposite.

Your observation is incorrect, why would I ever link something that I do not agree with without comments explaining the stupidity of the author?

Much simpler : I assume that everyone here understands some German (anyone civilized should), so I do not bother translating *simpler* articles. And in this specific case it was important to exclude the possibility of mistranslation by Google, so definitely no translate from me.
Sodomia delenda est

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#39
PS. Actually, really give it a try, here is another very interesting item in German,

https://www.facebook.com/JuergenTodenhoefer (first post on this page, yes it is about Islam in Germany)

which I'm not translating for you, I think you will manage w/o Google translate. S6

Something like Polish, otoh, would be unfair to expect. The solo reason I somewhat understand it is because 40 years ago there were a couple of books I really wanted to read .. I managed to find them in the original Polish language and spent quite a lot of time struggling through it..
Sodomia delenda est

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#40
You're right, I have to be completely off kelter here. S6
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