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Global cooling, er, I mean warming, er, wait...PT. 2
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(11-19-2014, 12:06 AM)SFX Wrote:
(08-24-2014, 04:57 PM)sunsettommy Wrote: Here is an interesting hypothesis that might at least in part explains what is going on in the polar regions and why we have those D/O 1,500 year cycles,during the interglacial period.

LINK

The Long version is available that shed more information over what the Short version already does.
That is interesting, and soon I will find the time to finish the entire thing.

I looked them both over. The short version was so poorly written I had to move on to the long version. Its a little better, but still disjointed.

But here is something that caught my attention. And that is the part about Arctic ice levels being the cause of more, or less, snowfall. According to the theory, this is the real cause of the planets attempt to remain in equilibrium.

But that really isn't the cause of all this. It is just an effect. When the arctic's ice level decreases, by default this means that the rest of the planet is becoming warmer. Hence, greater amounts of evaporation all over the planet. And the more H2O in the atmosphere, the more precipitation all over the globe, including the Arctic, AND Antarctic regions. So, its not just the Arctic that is affected. I wonder why Pope doesn't realize this?

But there is even more to all this. There is Plate Tectonics playing an all important role here. Plate tectonics moves continents around, over time, and their position determines the flow of oceanic currents. For instance, the joining of the Isthmus of Panama was just enough to disrupt the flow of Pacific currents into the cooler Atlantic, and hence the 2.5m to 3m Pleistocene.

Pope is looking at 'effect' and thinking of it as 'cause'. And this is what I take issue with in his presentation.
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#62
I live twenty-five minutes from Buffalo, we're being hammered by a early snow fall, the amount of snow that has fallen where I live is no where near that of Buffalo, but I don't recall a major snow storm in mid November when I was a kid growing up in the 50's and 60's.
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#63
Obama to Barter Keystone Pipeline for Climate Change Rules
former administration official Wrote:Whatever the president decides, I expect it will be driven by the bottom line on carbon pollution, not by symbolism
As if a pipeline would change anything in the number of gallons burned every year!
Their source of pollution is only convoyed by other means (Warren Buffet's trains), but it's still the same quantitatively.
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#64
One can only hope the Republicans aren't stupid enough to fall for that "barter".

Although, if past performance is any indication...

S4
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#65
Global cooling in West Seneca, N.Y. yesterday.

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#66
I honestly think Obama's myopia about global warming is harming the left. That pipeline is popular here. Not only this, but, as the Canadian ambassador pointed out, the pipeline means less carbon, not more.

Shipping the stuff to various ports or railing it there adds to pollution.

Obama opposes it because his friend benefits from railing it, it is that simple and he will be paid well for his work for Buffet.
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Palladin Wrote:Shipping the stuff to various ports or railing it there adds to pollution.

Obama opposes it because his friend benefits from railing it, it is that simple and he will be paid well for his work for Buffet
I agree. The carbon argument is beyond absurdity.

JW Wrote:One can only hope the Republicans aren't stupid enough to fall for that "barter".
Yes: better not have a pipeline. LOL. S5
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(11-19-2014, 07:39 PM)JohnWho Wrote: One can only hope the Republicans aren't stupid enough to fall for that "barter".

Although, if past performance is any indication...

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How right you are JW. Jackass Full(Dems), Jackass Lite(Repubes), take your pick. They are all Jackasses. And the Jackass Lites are hell bent on being liked up there, so they will do anything to not only get to go to all the elitist socials, but be allowed to enter through the front door. That's why they need to be Whigged Out.
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Huh Oh, here we go with yet one more case of "Who are you going to believe, us or your lying eyes?" It is oh so interesting to watch otherwise intelligent persons going through the "Up is down, right is wrong, cold is hot, and what you see is something entirely different. S6

And of course, left out is the one thing driving all this: the sun. S22
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Yea, when AGW causes everything, that's when the regular man says it's bs.

Here's some reality that doesn't fit their agenda:

http://www.livescience.com/48880-antarct...apped.html
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#71
Now hear this. Temperatures in Northern Europe have been slowly going down for the last two thousand years. Its been a little over one half degree C, but it clearly shows a trend over time.

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#72
Chaos in the Alps as massive snowfall traps 15,000 cars
Sanders 2020

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#73
CO2 is a catalyst for vegetation growth, who'd have thunk it????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...ected.html
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#74
Global warming is a bitch, Las Vegas and LA hit by snow on New Year's.
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#75
We just emerged from several days of (double digit) below zero degree (F) nights here in Colorado. It's not that unusual ... it's just unusual for December ... and it was unusual when we had them earlier in November. Usually we get them in January and Febuary. Hoping that it's taken it's toll and we won't get clobbered even worse.

One aspect that doesn't get much attention is the toll that it takes on machinery and infrastructure. Broken water mains, burst pipes, furnaces that give out from over work, cars that won't start, busted blocks on vehicles that don't have appropriate coolant, leaks from over-strained seals and gaskets ... And for humans ... snow removal heart attacks, frostbite, frozen homelesscicles, etc.. etc.. Economically, the cold is a very expensive affair.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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(01-01-2015, 10:30 PM)mr_yak Wrote: One aspect that doesn't get much attention is the toll that it takes on machinery and infrastructure. Broken water mains, burst pipes, furnaces that give out from over work, cars that won't start, busted blocks on vehicles that don't have appropriate coolant, leaks from over-strained seals and gaskets ... And for humans ... snow removal heart attacks, frostbite, frozen homelesscicles, etc.. etc.. Economically, the cold is a very expensive affair.

And you almost certainly will not either. After all, there is much invested, in both time and hot air, to the new warming planet that even a cooler planet must somehow be blamed on.....................wait for it.............................S13

Where is the Buzz when we really need him?
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#77
One of the very few places that actively mentions the dangers of cold weather to human deaths, is AcuWeather.com: 'Perfect Storm' for Heart Attacks in Cardiac Patients: Cold Air, Strenuous Exercise. I get my weather from this site, and this morning I was there, checking what things were going to be like in the upcoming week, and right there on its front page......................

This is something that the Kooks, like The Buzz, conveniently forget to mention, or know nothing about. Its like being "Stuck on Stupid" 24/7.

Anyway, be extra careful during this upcoming Canadian Global Warming Invasion. S5
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#78
Here is another ad for "global warming."

   
Temecula, California
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#79
Just for fun

see the changes in Geography due to GW.
Sanders 2020

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(01-04-2015, 02:08 PM)Ron Lambert Wrote: Here is another ad for "global warming."


Temecula, California

Gosh Ron, for a short time there, I thought you were referring to all the snow storms going on in Libya, Tunisia, and almost the entire North African coast line. That happened just a few days ago. S13

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All this Global Warming is getting to be frightening beyond belief. S6
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