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economic collapse: How Will It Affect Us?
#61
(07-15-2014, 07:53 PM)Anonymous24 Wrote: "You keep asking about "what about our aging population"."

When I referenced that, I meant that there wouldn't be as much societal chaos, since most people were older and settled.

Oh, so you basically meant the "old white guys" won't start as much trouble? What about all the youthful newly credentialed MS-13 members that are entering this country in droves and will probably get amnesty? What about all the tens ... if not hundreds of thousands of Central American children that will probably be allowed to stay as well? Some will attend Harvard and Yale ... but the majority will probably remain no or low skilled labor ... which is pretty much going the way of the dodo bird. Other than changing the diapers on "old white guys" what else are they going to do? What answer are they going to get when they ask "where's my slice of the American pie"? How do you think they'll react when the truth comes out that the plate is pretty much empty? How well do you think these youngsters will get along with the "indigenous poor" who are all ready beginning to rant?

We're headed toward a nation that will look a lot like Mexico or Honduras or Guatemala [and I don't mean this racially]. Where governments make lots of promises but pretty much deliver nothing unless you have connections. A nation of laws that ignores them is pretty much the definition of a lawless nation. Look around you. Maybe not so much at the state and municipal level but on the federal level there are examples where the government exempts itself from it's own laws every day. This sort of shit is contagious ... and spreads like the Spanish Influenza. How will you be affected? How do you think the nation will look when "due process" is auctioned off to the highest bidder or some insider or relative the way it is now in third world crap holes? The other major similarity is that there is virtually no middle class in these nations ... just the rich and the poor ... and that again is the way we are headed.

You describe a 'collapse' ... way too dramatic! ... think of it more as a slow motion train wreck.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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#62
Quote:We're headed toward a nation that will look a lot like Mexico or Honduras or Guatemala

with one but essential difference: Mexico et al can safely experiment with idiocies since they can only damage themselves, but the US is capable of damaging the entire world.

Therefore it is essential to have the US destroyed in full, bombed back to the stone age if you will, rather than allow it to strangle the entire humanity.
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#63
(07-15-2014, 11:08 PM)mv Wrote:
Quote:We're headed toward a nation that will look a lot like Mexico or Honduras or Guatemala

with one but essential difference: Mexico et al can safely experiment with idiocies since they can only damage themselves, but the US is capable of damaging the entire world.

Therefore it is essential to have the US destroyed in full, bombed back to the stone age if you will, rather than allow it to strangle the entire humanity.

Keep on dreaming. Russia is descending further and further into an oligarchic hell ... but nobody is talking about giving up their nukes. Simply being a third world shithole isn't grounds for getting kicked out of the doomsday club ... look at Pakistan ... look at wannabe North Korea (in another decade or so they might have something that goes bang instead of click) they all remain a members in good standing so why not U.S. mv?? Iran will become a member in short order. The more the merrier! Quit worrying and learn to love the bomb!

And if you're talking economically I'll pit our dollar against any other currency in the world when it comes to absorbancy when using it to wipe an arse!
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
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#64
Oh, I do agree that the other players are not perfect..... but one thing at a time.

Nuke the strongest and most evil first, stop and reexamine the situation.

(And incidentally Russia, Pakistan and North Korea are all sane countries that do not threaten others.... no reasons why they cannot keep their nukes. Both Pakistan and Russia have free and intelligent press -- unlike the US. Now, North Korea: we know little about them since NK government makes serious efforts to protect their population from the Sodomite menace... but just how many wars did NK start in their entire history?)
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#65
Ridiculous! The idea that it is wise to "Nuke the strongest and most evil first, stop and reexamine the situation" defies logic.

One may argue that contemporaneous trends are disturbing - but balanced against myriads of other honorable and successful actions, makes that argument entirely moot. You can argue it, but you can't substantiate it. I've talked with older survivors of the horrors of WWII , Cuba, Vietnam, and other confrontations, and they all endorse the U.S. as the best thing for the world, ever.

If it was good then, and you believe a change has occurred - why throw away the baby with the bath water in your urgency to tend to those changes? Why not target the changes and fix what's broke? Let the good potential continue to exist and work to fix what you clearly see needs to be fixed - and don't give me the tired story that what's broken can't be fixed.

If you see good and evil in the world, and claim the leading proponent of good is actually evil, then who do you intend to fill that vacuum, when that good/evil is destroyed? Everything is built from stepping-stone foundations - and that foundation can begin without being obliterated first.
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#66
Quote:why throw away the baby with the bath water in your urgency to tend to those changes?

Because it is Rosemary's Baby, and there is only one way to deal with those. This is how it is always done.

70 years ago it was believed that the evil force intend on World domination was the Reich, it was removed, and not fixed.
25 years ago it was believed that the evil force intend on World domination was the SovUnion, it was removed, and not fixed.
Today we all know what is the evil force intend on World domination, and it must be likewise removed.

Quote:If you see good and evil in the world, and claim the leading proponent of good is actually evil
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You are thinking about someone else.... US stands for a few things, like denial of history and science, promotion of corruption and mediocrity, support of every disgusting movement on the planet, from radical Islam to Nazism, and last but not the least, Sodomy. There is NOTHING good left. Only evil. And worst of all, aggressive evil.

Remove the Obamination and save the Humanity. This simple.
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#67
(07-16-2014, 12:29 AM)mv Wrote: Now, North Korea: we know little about them since NK government makes serious efforts to protect their population from the Sodomite menace... but just how many wars did NK start in their entire history?)

Quote:Hans, you're breaking my balls here. You're breaking my balls!!

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#68
Wm, here is some silver lining for you:

57 megaton range warheads, one per capital of each Obama's state, and the Tea Party will have no problems winning the next elections. S6
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#69
Cute, but no cigar. Lumping the U.S. with Nazis, or the USSR, doesn't work. The difference is that Germany wasn't destroyed - the Nazis were. Western Germany had more sense after the war than all the Western countries who embraced Keynesian economics and are still mired in its grip. The USSR's communist leadership was tossed out of power - which is an example of fixing what is broken.

How does fixing what's broken confuse you so much?
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#70
Quote:How does fixing what's broken confuse you so much?

The details. Waiting for a tea-drinking messiah is not good enough.


In both the Nazi Germany and USSR cases the entire old leadership was tossed away. For this to happen the country had to first suffer a major military defeat or major economic collapse. The same scope disaster is required for the US to be renewed.

And given the total lack of morality in the current US leadership comparing to the other two cases, economic collapse will not work: the US is very likely to start an all-out nuclear war first. Thus, the military collapse becomes the solo option.... and best if it is a rapid defeat which does not allow the US leaders to cause too much damage to the rest of the world. QED.
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#71
According to your recommendation, then, you prefer the U.S. to destroy everyone else, and that will somehow cause the magic change?

You don't need military defeat to get the political stage to change. Tunnel-vision is very limiting. There are many paths for change to occur. One man: Woodrow Wilson, invented the Progressive concept to change the U.S. allegiance under the Constitution. Why not allow small trigger points to reverse the damage?
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#72
(07-17-2014, 07:06 PM)WmLambert Wrote: According to your recommendation, then, you prefer the U.S. to destroy everyone else, and that will somehow cause the magic change?

No, the opposite obviously.

Quote:You don't need military defeat to get the political stage to change. Tunnel-vision is very limiting. There are many paths for change to occur. One man: Woodrow Wilson, invented the Progressive concept to change the U.S. allegiance under the Constitution. Why not allow small trigger points to reverse the damage?

Because the entire US ruling class is currently composed of the psychiatric cases... it is not one person who can be restrained or removed.. it is all of them. Inserting a small number of sane people in low level positions will not ever accomplish anything.
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#73
You're just being silly and drowning in hyperbole. The entire ruling class is not one thing or another. They are individuals who can be replaced or even changed within their own areas of concern. Like minds look for mutual support, but let that start to erode and everything becomes new.
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#74
Oh, but it is one thing now, and not another.

At all times there was a common denominator for the ruling class ideology.... there was a time it was "freedom" (or liberty to keep the purist happy), or individual rights, or unrestrained economy.

It is sexual perversion now, everything else is gone. And this is a psychiatric case.
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#75
so do you think there will be a catastrophic collapse, mv?
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#76
I am not an oracle, anon..... I was only talking about the Need of the Humanity and it is the destruction of Fashington.

Sure, *as a guess* if the regime stops its criminal adventures abroad, it will collapse economically. Otherwise, it will be wiped out by a nuclear exchange with humans.
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#77
(07-17-2014, 08:27 PM)mv Wrote: Oh, but it is one thing now, and not another.

At all times there was a common denominator for the ruling class ideology.... there was a time it was "freedom" (or liberty to keep the purist happy), or individual rights, or unrestrained economy.

It is sexual perversion now, everything else is gone. And this is a psychiatric case.

Certainly not. It is not one thing now - it is a multitude of different things all fighting for dominance. It is never just one thing unless every single person allows it to be. You mistake peripheral for mainstream.

If your small sample of society distresses you so, you are in the wrong place. I assure you that not every leader of industry is born with a silver spoon in his/her mouth. Most of those in the "ruling class" are transitory figures. They come and go - and most come from good principles and good roots.
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#78
(not ignoring you but no time right now)
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#79
(07-18-2014, 09:45 AM)mv Wrote: I am not an oracle, anon..... I was only talking about the Need of the Humanity and it is the destruction of Fashington.

Sure, *as a guess* if the regime stops its criminal adventures abroad, it will collapse economically. Otherwise, it will be wiped out by a nuclear exchange with humans.


Geez you are hard to read ... first we destroy ourselves by humping each other to death ... next a nuclear exchange ... can you at least pick one or the other? ... or does it get even more convoluted like some scenario where we all die from humping our nukes?
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#80
Geez yak, your demands are unreasonable.

I'm only saying that for the Humanity to survive, evil must be destroyed. As has happened in the past, it will be destroyed.

But I'm not a seer to know exactly how this will happen.

If Genesis 19 is the prophecy about the fate of the US, fire and brimstone, correct? S6

And just what else can that mushroomy thing be?

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