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Swastika, 1918
#1
I accidentally came across this thing, apparently well-erased from history:

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The picture on the right was used by Red Army on an armband in 1918. The letters in the drawing are Cyrillic R.S.F.S.R. Wow. S13

The official story is that NSDAP took the symbol from Ancient India... but perhaps it was brought to Germany by those Germans who fought for the Reds in Russian Civil War? Ideological affinity, you know, NSDAP was a radical socialist movement....

Alfred Rosenberg would be one guess, but likely a wrong one -- he fought on the other side. But it might be interesting to check the bios of early NSDAP members to see just who might have come up with the design.
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#2
In the past, I've posted a couple of pictures showing the swastika on early Soviet propaganda. But I don't think the NSDAP copied it from them. Not sure where they got it, but they slightly rotated the swastika in order to make theirs unique.

Swastikas have been around for thousands of years, and were even found among American Indians, predating Europeans arrival. Its jus one of those things that is easy to invent and use. The lines are straight, uniform, and symmetric.

Oh, I went back and looked again at the top left picture, with the double headed eagle. Perhaps it really did come from Russians. After all Uncle Benito got his ideas for Fascism from the earliest Communist movement in Russia.

Does this mean that Russia really is the den of iniquity? S13
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#3
It is much more natural to copy a symbol from a similar movement than invent a new one (and all the older swastikas were not political symbols). Red Army 1918's swastika seems the first political use.

But let's try to research this a bit better ... I do not know if rotation is significant, but it would be interesting to find NSDAP swastika from 1919 to see if it was rotated or not.
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#4
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All this is supposed to heighten patriotism. And the Nazis and Communists were great at playing copycats. Guess where they got a lot of their symbolism from?






Incidentally, the NSDAP was not created until 1920, by Anton Drexler
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#5
Quote:All this is supposed to heighten patriotism

Not sure this is the case here, it may be simply a decoration (or an attempt to make the design more complicated to prevent copying -- I would guess this image comes from a money bill of some kind?). We need to distinguish between ornamental and political usage.

I'm downloading a book on Swastika history now, let me see if I can find something interesting.
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#6
Actually, let me take this all back. After looking very briefly into "The Encyclopedia of Swastika" I see other possible "immediate" sources for NSDAP adoption of it. In particular Swastika was used on beer bottles of at least two companies, and NSDAP met in beer halls during the 1920s.
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#7
Here's some more interesting links:

A Swastika Pictorial Atlas

Om, Swastika and Shivalinga
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#8
As importantly, is the 1848 Manifesto of Engels and Marx. After sixty years of intellectuals and their unfounded hopefulness, with no real-world examination, the idea was spread throughout the world and shows up in many forms - but all with a similar root.

The originals used in Europe mostly trace back to Hinduism, and refers to being auspicious, happy, and good.

Does anyone know what the swastika image used by native Americans actually represents? In the floor of the Fisher Building in Detroit the image was embedded in the floor tile. The NA Swastika image I've seen was reversed. In 1914, the icon was the logo of the Swastika Fuel Company out of Santa Fe, NM, so it is probably the Indian one. According to one source the Swastika is from the Navajo tribe of America. It is called a swirling Rainbow and is a very ancient symbol.The round headed beings are male gods, squareheads-Goddesses.

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The originals used in Europe mostly trace back to Hinduism, and refers to being auspicious, happy, and good.
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#9
I doubt about Hinduism. It is all over ancient Greek designs, for instance. (But then Ancient Greece <=> India cultural connection is strong).
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#10
The best title/description of all this swastika searching, including Hindu, Greek, etc, is 'Indo-European'. My best guess is that it all has a common root, from one location, where it, the language base, and many other things originated. It all most likely has a common ancestor.

Which brings us back to the one single event that has influenced humans, perhaps more than anything else in our prehistory. I'm talking about that singularity around the year 5600BC. It is known as the Gilgamesh Epoch, or Noah's Flood. My best guess is that the area around the Black Sea was the real cradle of civilization. When the swift deluge from the Mediterranean happened, it displaced several million Indo Europeans, forcing them in every direction. And they took their culture with them, passing it on. The Swastika almost certainly originated there, and was spread throughout the entire European, Middle Eastern, theatre.

But what do I know anyway. All that is bunk, because the bible says it was Noah, who saved everything, right? S5
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#11
Yes, Noah and his parthenogenetic sons.
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#12
I think Ayla had something to do with it.
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