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Euros Finally Waking Up?
It's the fault of the Church. Of the Catholic Church but also of the other confessions which followed the mainstream.

On the one hand, the moral rules about sex, stricto sensu, are almost impossible to follow. On top of that Papal decrees went against medical recommandations in the case of AIDS, and in general were completely disconnected from reality.

On the other hand, the Church was guilty of covering pedophilia cases. On the moral ground they were discredited completely. It's their fault.

The protestant, orthodox (Slavian and Greek) and the Jews also failed to promote realistic moral values while failing to apply basic ones themselves, thought it's less documented and less spectacular.

What happens today is that Islam is still viewed as preserving the moral values and at the same time satisfy those in quest of intensive mysticism.

The only reason why I educated my daughter into the Catholic Church was that if one day she needs a mystical experience she knows that she can find it there and doesn't need to look into Islam. (Fortunately she's not interested into religion, but you never know what can happen in the future)
Poeple without christian education at all, doesn't know that it's possible to practice fanaticaly a christian religion and turn to Islam.

Islam also has a moral code radically different, and designed to protect the moral authority of the imams despite despictable behaviors. He can force into marriage an 11 years old girl, rape her, and it's still perfectly hallal. If the girl complains, she is the sinner.
It's very difficult to fry an imam on moral ground. Homosexual pedophilia is not even mentioned in the possible type of immoral behavior.

While the christian faith representatives became stupid, the islamic leader exploited radicalism.
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(10-21-2018, 04:35 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: On the other hand, the Church was guilty of covering pedophilia cases. On the moral ground they were discredited completely. It's their fault.

That just shows you how deep the moral decay has been rotting in Europe.  And the real fault is in the citizenry and its leaders, including the very apparatus that represents those values.  

AGAIN, it is the lack of a moral base, of which Christianity is the foundation, that has been allowed to erode.  You are making my point here.
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Yes, I agree.
We are left with the universal moral naturally common to humans.
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Laurentiu Rebega, MEP from Romania, says that reform, i.e. change, is not an "If", but a "When"

Quote:The Reform of the European Union: Not If, but When!

Laurențiu Rebega is a Romanian politician and since 2014, a member of the European Parliament (MEP)

In every dynamic system, “change” (you can read it as real “reform”) has a “window of opportunity”.

Let’s imagine a car that speeds down a straight lane. At some point, the lane curves. There is not a fixed, pre-determined moment when the driver has to start turning. He or she can start turning slowly sooner or, can turn suddenly very fast. However, the longer they postpone, the greater the risk. There is a moment after which the turn can no longer be made and an accident is unavoidable.

For almost five years now, since I became a Member of the European Parliament, I have been preoccupied by the deep failures of the European Union.

I will outline the worst ones here.

First, the centralizing bureaucracy which uses an enormous amount of resources and, on the other hand, dramatically delays taking simpler measures.

Second, institutional incapacity: the European institutions are not calibrated to face realities on the ground.

Third, horizontal fragmentation between Member States tends to establish a de facto inequality in which large and/or developed states take discriminatory decisions against the small ones.

Fourth, vertical discrimination: the best prepared work force and development hubs tend to concentrate in already rich countries.

Fifth of all, political sclerosis: the mainstream leaders and parties no longer stand for the citizens’ real problems and are inclined to replace political decisions by managerial decisions.

There is little democracy, so to speak.

I want to be clear: I do not want the abolition of the European Union, altogether.

For decades, the EU has brought prosperity and stability to Western Europe. For ten years, my own country, Romania, has enjoyed important advantages as a member of the EU.

In short, the functioning of the EU has produced beneficial consequences that can no longer be removed from the European citizens’ way of life.

A disappearance of the Union would dramatically affect the income of most Europeans.

Practically, Europeans would become new migrants of an overturned world.

There is an urgent need for reform, foremost in relation to the malfunctions emphasized above.

National states are the safety net of this reform.

They can alone ensure reconciliation with the needs of their citizens and, at the same time, they can revive the European project with the vision and the enthusiasm that characterized the era of the founding fathers in 1957.

Sovereignty and subsidiarity are the principles we need to return to in order to reform the EU.

However, there is one more unanswered question: what is the interest of the United States in all this?

During the Cold War, the US saw Europe as a battlefield and supported the Western side.

Subsequently, the enlargement of the Union has created opportunities for America as well.

Henry Kissinger once said there was no interlocutor if he wanted to talk to “Europe”.

In fact, the Union is a result of this situation. If America wants to be the leader of a better, freer world, it must act in favor of a better European partnership

The EU needs to reform and urgently. The time is now.

If it does not, it will disappear and will trigger a range of negative consequences.

Is the world prepared to manage 500 million Europeans whose prosperity would be shattered? New hostilities and conflicts?

Economic cooperation and prosperity in a peaceful Europe — depend on America.
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He is perfectly right: The EU needs reforms. Period. It doesn't have to disapear or to be rebuild from zero.

He said something very acurate: The EU is more a management body than a governing one listening to their citizens.
The EU manages agricultural subsidies (EU to farmers), infrastructural subsidies (EU to states), the euro currency (via the ECB), industrial products regulation (conformity label), sovereign debt supervision (which failure caused the Greek crisis and sovereign debt excess) and more recently, they improve bank supervision (Stress Test) and measures to avoids a repeat of the Financial Crisis.

Immigration is not managed by the EU. There treaties and agreements between all EU members but the EU doesn't actively manage the flux of immigrations. They attempted to do so with strong reaction from Hungary and other states who disagreed.

There is also an European level organisation to watch the sea: Frontext but it doesn't realy manage neither. Officialy it kust follows the rules. Unofficialy, some pepole at the EU or gravitating around the EU institutions have an influence on how the sea and the borders let or doesn't let migrants in.

About Islam, the EU completely ignores the topic totaly: No debate, no position, no mention of it ever.

All these things don't require, and should even avoid, inputs from the populations. It's management procedure. If you make a referendum toask people what should be done to fix the banks, you will get a financial crisis before the end of next week.
So, what they do looks rather undemocratic (never ask the opinions of the people), cold and distant.

The EU could do something more "what the people wants" way.
Member states are sort of the buffer between the citizenry and the EU thought, within national states there is already a big gap between the man in street and the political leaders. Some regional or more local communication chanels are sometimes needed.

For this reason, it's unthinkable that the EU replaces one day sovereign states.
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Czech PM wants to leave global migration pact

Only a few days ago I learned about it.
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(11-03-2018, 07:49 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Czech PM wants to leave global migration pact

Only a few days ago I learned about it.

The Czechs and Poland will make four and five of the present total. And it will not be the end of the "Opt Out" crowd.

Quote:He spoke a day after Austria said it would follow the United States and Hungary in backing out of the UN pact over concerns that it would blur the line between legal and illegal migration. A minister in Poland’s arch-conservative government has also recommended his country quit the agreement.

This is yet one more reason why the UN's lifespan will be shorter than most suspect. Its the Ultimate Bureaucratic Black Hole, where Everything moving into the Event Horizon gets sucked in, and lost forever. Shock
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And the more we go, the more the UN becomes a big joke.
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Can you identify the Real Culprit here?   Shock

Train of horror: Germans build monument to migrant murder, rape and crime


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Finland's Grooming Gangs

'Unsurprisingly since speaking out, the Twitter account of the leader of the Finns Party -- Jussi Halla-aho -- has been locked for a period.' 

The only thing that works is vigilantism.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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(01-30-2019, 08:41 PM)Canuknucklehead Wrote: Finland's Grooming Gangs

'Unsurprisingly since speaking out, the Twitter account of the leader of the Finns Party -- Jussi Halla-aho -- has been locked for a period.' 

The only thing that works is vigilantism.

It is impossible to argue with Islam. in the West, its a cancer that corrupts and destroys all it touches. Sadly law enforcement is totally unable to handle the problem, which leaves the citizenry........................... I wonder how much longer it will take before a major ethnic war erupts? And I also wonder if one, or more, European countries will begin their own form of "2nd Amendment" rights to its citizenry?
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It the law won't do its job, it's time for citizens to take the law into its own hands.
The true purpose of democracy is not to select the best leaders — a clearly debatable obligation — but to facilitate the prompt and peaceful removal of obviously bad ones. 
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"Euros Finally Waking Up?"  Apparently not.  And so far, I see no end to this Euro-Stupidity.   And if they manage to cower Amazon over there, how long before it happens here?  Oh Wait!, Amazon has already caved in over here.  Perhaps its time to find another vendor.

Amazon Bans Tommy Robinson’s Book, ‘Mohammed’s Koran’

Quote:Whatever anyone thinks of Tommy Robinson or the Qur’an, this is a serious matter that anyone who cares about the freedom of speech should be extremely concerned about.

Mohammed’s Koran is critical of Islam’s holy book. It endeavors to illustrate how violent jihadists justify their actions by referring to Islamic texts and teachings -- and that’s all. Robinson and McLoughlin call for no violence. Their book is accurate.

Anyone who has written a book that is critical of anything should read the writing on the wall and realize that once this censorship begins, it won’t end with Tommy Robinson or Qur’an-critical books. But they won’t. PEN, the international organization that is supposedly dedicated to defending the freedom of speech, is made up of hard-Leftists who won’t utter a whisper in defense of Tommy Robinson’s book, or a murmur of protest that it is not allowed to be sold.

They don’t realize that what is being done to him can be done to them. But it will be.
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And it doesn't end there either.   S18

Belgian mayor defends carnival float featuring Jews with money and a rat
Despite widespread condemnation, Aalst Mayor Christoph D’Haese argues display ‘should be allowed’ and that ‘carnival participants had no sinister intentions’

Quote:A spokesperson for the carnival group told a blogger last month that the display was meant to address how “everything has become so expensive.”  S13

The carnival group’s president did not immediately reply to a request for comment by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

The group Vismooil’n created the display as their 2019 theme for the Aalst carnival, the local edition of celebrations that take place throughout parts of Europe and Latin America annually in anticipation of Lent, the 40-day period before Easter. Participants prepare floats and dance routines, parading them through town on Carnaval.

In 2013, a different group designed for the Aalst carnival a float resembling a Nazi railway wagon used to transport Jews to death camps.

The people who designed the float, known as the FTP Group, marched near the float dressed as Nazi SS officers and ultra-Orthodox Jews. A poster on the wagon showed Flemish Belgian politicians dressed as Nazis and holding canisters labeled as containing Zyklon B, the poison used by the Nazis to exterminate Jews in gas chambers in the Holocaust. UNESCO condemned that display.

And the Anti-Islam floats?  We're still searching.  I wonder how much longer before the conquest of Euro-LaLaLand is complete?  Perhaps European Joos should learn how to riot and destroy things.  That may go a long way to receiving equal justice.

Aalst carnival March 3 2019


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In Germany more citizens are finally waking up to the advantages of the 2nd Amendment. We are just 230 years ahead of the curve. Perhaps they will all wake up,....... eventually. Spiteful

Gun Sales Soar in Germany: “We are no longer safe in our own country without a weapon”
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International Morality is complicated. I see a day when all humanity can stand together as a single people. Not just the distant future when we populate the stars and each planet claims its sovereignty - because even then, there will be an over-arching desire for a working morality.

The problem is minority desire for special treatment. When most people live one way, those who live differently want to fix things. This is why the great American experiment is so correct. Sovereignty must always reside with the individual. When a plurality of dissimilar sects can band together to overwhelm the rest, they must be prevented from doing so. A religion that wants to live in one moral way is fine, so long as it does not preach against others to comply or die. That seems to be the answer today. Any religion preaching death to infidels is no longer a religion, it becomes an amoral political regime.
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The Ecolo Party wins the elections in Bruxelles
(well, they won some votes, not the majority)

Please note the little earths in the top-left slefie. Meaning religion of love?
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