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WarBicycle's Wacky Islam Page
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L’Oreal casts a model in hijab to promote shampoon. S3 S6S28
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Happy ramadan!

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Algerian teachers 1967 - Today

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What surprises me in the last picture Fred, is that the males actually allowed the two women in the aqua-green garb, to sit down, while there were several males standing in the back row.   I wonder if anyone has been arrested for such acts against the Prophet?  Shock
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Seriously, if you look for photos of all Islamic states EX Saudi Arabia in 1967, EVEN Afghan girls wore skirts and no hijab. Iranian girls were hot.

The religious fundamentalism that has eroded their cultures started around 1972-4. Kamil posted a pic of Egyptian girls in bathing suits in the late 1940s!

If you use your mind, you can figure out why it started and what will end it.
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(07-11-2018, 08:15 PM)Palladin Wrote: If you use your mind, you can figure out why it started and what will end it.

Perhaps you can clue us in without us having to use our brainpower. Spiteful
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Let me throw in a brain power option. Since the birth of Islam, it has grown less and less powerful and respected. The new insults to women and infidels came about in reaction to the failure of it. The more it disintegrates, the more recalcitrant it becomes.
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John,

Israel's 1967 post war conduct and the USA have the Muslim people up in arms. If you were an Arab, do you think you would like the USA or Israel? Be honest.

Or put another way, do you think you would enjoy it if an Islamic power was the hegemon in the Americas like we are there where they tell us who can be our leader, where they arm various extremists to over throw our government?

Of course not.


Pretty much the same difference except they are religious and we aren't. It would still create hate and violence here and there it is with a religious angle because we are not fellow Muslims. Islam has among it's core tenets that all non Muslims are at war with Islam and Islam is at war with us.

Dar es Salaam and Dar es Harb, land of peace, land of war, the land of war is governing their core region where Mecca and Jerusalem are. Ask any analyst, they know this. IF the USA dropped our Roman empire ways, Muslims wouldn't know we existed.

Christian doctrine posits the same idea, except our war is not with humans and violence is prohibited and you know they have jihad.
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(07-12-2018, 01:34 PM)WmLambert Wrote: Let me throw in a brain power option. Since the birth of Islam, it has grown less and less powerful and respected. The new insults to women and infidels came about in reaction to the failure of it. The more it disintegrates, the more recalcitrant it becomes.


Islam sucks compared to the other 2 monotheist faiths due to jihad, it's poor view of women and sharia, but, it's not always been this chaotic hate filled thing. As Fred showed, until the early 1970s all Islamic states were modernizing rapidly. I work with a lady from Iran who fled Khomeini, she's a scientist from Iran.


Iran is a perfect example of what's happened. Too much USA input, too fast and now we have the counter reaction back into neanderthal thinking. They're Muslims, they are not atheists.

If we left them alone global terrorism would plummet. It has to run it's cycle out now.
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(07-12-2018, 02:36 PM)Palladin Wrote: ...they are religious and we aren't. It would still create hate and violence here and there it is with a religious angle because we are not fellow Muslims. Islam has among it's core tenets that all non Muslims are at war with Islam and Islam is at war with us.

Dar es Salaam and Dar es Harb, land of peace, land of war, the land of war is governing their core region where Mecca and Jerusalem are. Ask any analyst, they know this. IF the USA dropped our Roman empire ways, Muslims wouldn't know we existed.

Christian doctrine posits the same idea, except our war is not with humans and violence is prohibited and you know they have jihad.

You mean if Christians committed mass suicide, then Islam would stop hating them? Get serious. There are no Roman Empire ways in existance today. Muslims don't even know their own religion exists. They are bound to a cultural necessity. if they doubt their indoctrination they are supposed to be killed. The kids in Palestinian camps have never seen maps that have Israel on it. What do you expect?
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(07-12-2018, 02:48 PM)Palladin Wrote: Iran is a perfect example of what's happened. Too much USA input, too fast and now we have the counter reaction back into neanderthal thinking. They're Muslims, they are not atheists.

Yep, its Always we Ugly Americanos, screwing up everything.  Never someone else, such as the Ayatollahs who were stirring up things, while living in exile in France.  Or the Shah, who was a fellow traveler in anti-communism.

Of course the truth is that the US was fighting the rise of Communism, and the Shah was anti-Communist.  So we overlooked his shortcomings in order to keep SSR from rolling up the south.  Not that we liked the Shah's lack of human rights, but we didn't want to screw the pooch by preaching Liberty for everyone.  In other words, we prioritized things and fighting Communism was number one priority.  

And since you are now a 100% right vs 100% wrong convert, anything short of perfection is the 100% absolute fault of the evil USofA.  It certainly makes things a whole lot easier to understand if you look at things that simplicitly, doesn't it Patrick?  No need to study all the facts; just a few that fortify your absolutist "100% good, 100% evil", world view.   S13

Looks like an 80/20 proposition to me.  80% intellectual laziness, and 20% intellectual dishonesty.  Spiteful


(07-12-2018, 02:48 PM)Palladin Wrote: If we left them alone global terrorism would plummet. It has to run it's cycle out now.

ABSOLUTELY!  Hey, with nobody to stand up to global terrorism, they can run roughshod over everything else, and when they have cowered everyone, they will have "run it's cycle" and they will have won.  And since Islam means "Submission", we will have all submitted.  So much for Christianity.  We can all heed the call to prayer and submit, right Patrick?   Its Soo Simple: just stop sticking our noses into other's business and while we will lose the whole ball of wax, we will still have our noses intact.  S13

Could we have done a better job?  Well, sure.  Could you do a better job with "take your pick", better than what you are doing?  I'll let you decide that. S5
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John,

So if an Islamic power held hegemony over north America, there would be no violence from our end, we'd just accept it?

That's not what you preach. You preach killing in response to impingement on your liberty. Why do you think they would or should be more peaceful than you preach?

William,

The west nor the USA would commit suicide by minding our own business. We live in North America, that's the only place we have any business trying to manage. We actually offered to commit mass suicide during the cold war vis a vis a nuclear exchange with Moscow, it's called mutual assured destruction.

There's your mass suicide nihilism, not acting like Burma or Argentina.
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(07-14-2018, 11:03 AM)Palladin Wrote: John,

So if an Islamic power held hegemony over north America, there would be no violence from our end, we'd just accept it?

That's not what you preach. You preach killing in response to impingement on your liberty. Why do you think they would or should be more peaceful than you preach?

I preach nothing of the kind. That is what your new found 'All or nothing' ideology tells you. Next time you stand in front of a mirror, try looking deeply within, at what stares back at you. You are only seeing what you want to see.
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(07-14-2018, 11:03 AM)Palladin Wrote: ...[Neither] The west nor the USA would commit suicide by minding our own business. We live in North America, that's the only place we have any business trying to manage. We actually offered to commit mass suicide during the cold war vis a vis a nuclear exchange with Moscow, it's called mutual assured destruction.

There's your mass suicide nihilism, not acting like Burma or Argentina.

No. MAD was an attempt to stop mass suicide. Get your facts straight. If Khrushchev gave Cuba nukes 90 miles away, someone could have strategized using them as a cat's paw. One bomb could kill thousands. A thousand bombs would kill no one.

As for minding our own business, that is how we stopped the piracy in Tripoli by sending in our marines to rescue our citizens who were endangered. According to you, we should just allow slavers to capture and exploit our people. You're not thinking historically, logically, nor intelligently.
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