18 annual climate gabfests: 16 years without warming

[sunsettommy]

From HERE is a long comment made by Gail Combs who show evidence of major Banks having controlling power over congress and the media.

EXCERPT:

Gail Combs says:
December 2, 2012 at 6:09 am

Patricia Ravasio (@patravasio) says:
December 2, 2012 at 12:19 am

… But to me, I guess it all comes down to this. What’s the harm in trying to clean up the environment?
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And the third thought about CAGW is Who Benefits? and Who is in control? Who is behind the “Global Warming” scare is pretty darn clear if you bother to look and so are their ultimate plans.

If you go back to the U.S. Congressional Record February 9, 1917, page 2947 you find J. P. Morgan bought controlling interest of the press. Nothing much has changed since then.

JP Morgan: Our next big media player?
(April 13, 2010) JP Morgan controls 54 U.S. daily newspapers,and owns 31 television stations…

GE owns 49% of MSNBC (a left-leaning news station) and J.P. Morgan was lead financial advisor to GE with Goldman Sachs and Citi acting as co-advisors

At the Copenhagen climate summit Developing countries react furiously to leaked ‘Danish text’ The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank

Why did the developing countries reacted furiously? Because the IMF and the World Bank is much hated. SEE: Structural Adjustment Policies and Mr. Budhoo’s Bombshell ” senior economist with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for more than 12 years, publicly resigned in May, 1988.”

WHO had their sticky fingers in the IPCC? Why the World Bank of course:

More in the link.

[sunsettommy]

The Scientist Gail Combs has more to say HERE.

EXCERPT:

Gail Combs says:
December 2, 2012 at 4:15 am

Patricia Ravasio (@patravasio) says:
December 2, 2012 at 12:19 am

Thank you all for clarifying your positions. I guess it’s hard to know which temperature charts to believe. What I do know is that regardless of the position you want to substantiate you can find the numbers to do just that. But to me, I guess it all comes down to this. What’s the harm in trying to clean up the environment?
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Most of us here have no problem with that. I, like others here, was a member of Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy…. I am also a scientist.

If you actually look at the facts instead of the hype, CAGW is not about cleaning up the environment, it is about diverting large sums of money into the pockets of large corporations and political cronies.

Enron, joined by BP, invented the global warming industry. I know because I was in the room. This was during my storied three-week or so stint as Director of Federal Government Relations for Enron in the spring of 1997, back when Enron was everyone’s darling in Washington. It proved to be an eye-opening experience that didn’t last much beyond my expressing concern about this agenda of using the state to rob Peter, paying Paul, drawing Paul’s enthusiastic support.

In fact, this case was not entirely uncommon in that the entire enterprise was Paul’s idea to begin with….

The basic truth is that Enron, joined by other “rent-seeking” industries — making one’s fortune from policy favors from buddies in government, the cultivation of whom was a key business strategy — cobbled their business plan around “global warming.” Enron bought, on the cheap of course, the world’s largest windmill company (now GE Wind) and the world’s second-largest solar panel interest (now BP) to join Enron’s natural gas pipeline network, which was the second largest in the world. The former two can only make money under a system of massive mandates and subsidies (and taxes to pay for them); the latter would prosper spectacularly if the war on coal succeeded.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/15/lesson...-industry/

[John L]

This entire thing is classic in that it highlights two critical areas in need of understanding. And this especially pertains to those young people, and willfully ignorant, on the political Left. They haven't the slightest idea as to just how much their Utopian Idealism is being used against them.

Here are the two critical areas:

1. Follow the Money: All one has to do is just follow the money, not just most of the time, but ALL of the time. Everything runs on money. Businesses run on money, politicians have to have it, and regular people need it to obtain the things necessary to life. Its essential.

2. Educate Thyself: I have never seen so much ignorance washing around, and strangely passing itself off as dogma. Just pushing all of that ignorance aside takes time, and is hard to keep trying to dispel. Just take the Grizz. I have no doubt he really tries to do what he considers the best thing. but he is so uneducated about basic Classical Economics that he manages to get it 180 degrees wrong.

All of these young skulls, filled with mush, run around talking about how everyone has to fight the evil corporations when the real problem is the very thing their beloved party, and the other one as well, is doing in order to enrich themselves, and maintain a stranglehold on their own political and economic power. And instead of more rules, which only help those they wish to stop, they could really be working to a solution by getting rid of the rules that make the system so restrictive.

And you know what? I don't hate Dupes: I just pity them, for their well-intentioned lunacy. As P.T.Barnum is said to have stated,.....................*








*Note: the real person starting the saying was most likely David Harnnum, when talking about Barnum, regarding the Cardiff Giant Affair.

[Palladin]

The most interesting aspect of the AGW nonsense is the fact that 99.9%of it's supporters are leftists,yet "the solution" to cure AGW is to tax everyone and XFER the proceeds to the 1% and that's true, that's what cap&trade accomplishes.

That ought to wake up the thinkers on the left. I used to have a lefty friend and I kept asking him,"why not just outlaw fossil fuels over a timeframe" instead of the reverse socialism trash?

He refused to ever answer the question and one day he got upset with me and we've never spoken since then.

[Gunnen4u]

It's ok, Pat, none of my friends are left-wing at all.

[Palladin]

He was actually fun to talk to, but, it was hard dealing with his biases. If the guy would have just considered that one fact of how the AGW promoters want to "cure the problem", I think it would cause a re-think on his part.