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Are We Headed Into Another Little Ice Age?
You know what?  Even when the truth is staring them right in the face, and they even report about what is happening, They Still Don't Get It!

One of the strongest Arctic outbreaks of winter is ready to surge into the Lower 48 in early March
Temperatures may fall 40 degrees below normal in spots.


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Listen  to this Genius skirt around the real causes, but continue to blame global warming.  This would all be hilarious were it not so serious.   Gah

Is extreme weather related to climate change?




"...........The rate of warming is unusual, at least compared to the last few thousand years"  S18

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Oh, Thank G-d for Global Warming: A brutal Arctic air mass is about to take over the United States. What would we do without it?

Eventually it is going to have to dawn on all these Einsteins that Algore has been feeding all of them a crock of Schist. S13

Just look at Atlanta and Charlotte. I live in Raleigh/Durham area, and it should fare no better. Shock

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I want you folks to see this weather forecast for today, May 4th, through May 7th, in Europe.  I found this on Robert Felix's site, IceAgeNow.com. This is something that will hardly be reported on in the MSM.  This is going to be catastrophic to new plants and vineyards, which will add up to billions of dollars in crop losses, in Europe alone.  

I'm assuming that "0" on the chart equals zero degrees centigrade, which is 32 degrees Fahrenheit.  If so, then the "-8" will be "17.6 degrees Fahrenheit!  Wow!!

If this can be happening there this late in the spring, we just might also have the same thing waiting to pay us a visit here in North America.  Imagine the loss in early crops here?  And this is just the beginning of our current Grand Solar Minimum.  Just imagine a decade from now.

SevereWeatherEurope.eu UPDATE on the historic Arctic front moving across Europe this weekend, May 3-6th

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On the 4th of may, we had snow in the belgian Ardennes tops. I don't remember in my life having seen snow so late in the spring. Maybe last time during WW2, I don't know...

Good thing I'm in Lithuania and I just avoid the cold wave. Weather in the Baltics is fresh but not exceptional for the season.

Biggest temperature drops are reported in France and Switzerland. In the mountain they have snow as in winter.

Then, according to your map, Greece should be under 0 celcius too. Which is unheard of. (But I don't have direct report from people living there.)

On facebook I ask environmentalists "Hi, how is the Global Warming going?"
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And that's not all.

In Italy:Arctic Hurricane scourges Italy, bad weather of exceptional importance: never so in the last 70 years, snow at 150 m
Arctic attack of exceptional magnitude, never so in the last 70 years.
Flakes up to 150 m, 20 cm to 5/600 m on the Modena Apennines. Here are the details

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And the Swiss, no less: Record May snowfall in some parts of Switzerland
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And this has certainly not been lost by Adapt 2030's David DuByne.

5G Disrupts Weather Forecasts UK Record Cold, Europe Record Snow (823)


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I just saw this latest issue of abject climatic ignorance, over at Zero Hedge. Nobody has the slightest idea as to why all this rain and destruction of corn, and soy bean crops in the article. And even worse, the comments from the readers only tells me that the overwhelming majority of people haven't the slightest idea of what is headed our way.

Farmageddon Looms: Only 30% Of US Corn Fields Have Been Planted, 5 Year Average Is 66%

Hey!, its the next Grand Solar Minimum, you Dumbasses! Everyone keeps going on about 'Global Warming' and paying zero attention to the Real Problem: a cooling planet from the next grand solar minimum. I even posted in the comment section, but I don't expect anyone to pay any attention to it.
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And more on the way................. Spiteful

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And along with all that snow out West, comes even more rain for the middle of the country. This is one of the first signs of a Grand Solar Minimum, as the planet begins to cool.

Floodwaters Continue to Drown American Heartland
Midwest farmers are still under water following winter storm.


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Quote:This is one of the first signs of a Grand Solar Minimum,

It may be or it may not, we just do not know.

US farmers may be planting less corn because they may not be able to sell it to China -- and perhaps climate is not a factor at all. We don't know.

This spring in New York is definitely the coolest I've ever had here. But I have no way of knowing if this is just a random aberration or part of the onset of the Ice Age.

The darn thing is that we should be able to know the answer -- if NOAA, NASA, other organisations responsible for collecting temperature data were trustworthy -- but they are not. No point to even look at their numbers, they are probably falsified, and no chance to know in which way.

SO.... maybe ice age... maybe nothing. In ten years we may know S6
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(06-04-2019, 03:53 PM)mv Wrote:
Quote:This is one of the first signs of a Grand Solar Minimum,

It may be or it may not, we just do not know.

US farmers may be planting less corn because they may not be able to sell it to China -- and perhaps climate is not a factor at all. We don't know.

This spring in New York is definitely the coolest I've ever had here.  But I have no way of knowing if this is just a random aberration or part of the onset of the Ice Age.

The darn thing is that we should be able to know the answer -- if NOAA, NASA, other  organisations responsible for collecting temperature data were trustworthy -- but they are not.  No point to even look at their numbers, they are probably falsified, and no chance to know in which way.

SO....  maybe ice age... maybe nothing.  In ten years we may know S6

I did not say anything about an "Ice Age".  I said "Grand Solar Minimum" which is not quite the same.  And as I have stated numerous times before, we're already in the middle of an "ice age", the Pleistocene.  We are simply in an "Interglacial", or "Interstadial" if you want to be more specific.

I have also stated that when the globe cools, it creates a lot of disruption patterns, unlike a warming period, which is much smoother and gradual.  Here is what I mean about an incoming GSM.  Go to the 16:40 point at the documentary below and then perhaps you may understand what I am talking about.  "................And it rained, and it rained, and it rained."

Little Ice Age: Big Chill (Full Documentary)




Michael, I have been posting about this very thing for years now.  If you had bothered studying some of it, you would be more familiar about what is soon to happen to this planet in the near future.  Forget all that AGW(Anthropomorphic Global Warming) manure, because they are still pushing the Global Warming agenda.  But things are about to change very soon.  They can't keep making excuses for all this crazy weather much longer.  And I am talking about famine, because this planet will not be able to feed the 7.7 billion humans already on the planet.  At a minimum, millions of humans in third world countries will starve to death.  Its going to be that bad.

And sometime real soon, this interstadial will be coming to an end, and the descent into the next glaciation(not ice age) will begin.  We have been in an ice age(Pleistocene) for 2.58 million years already.  And unlike the so called experts have been saying for years now, the ice age did not end 12,500 years ago.  We're still in it, and sometime in this century, or the next, we will be headed into the next incoming ice sheets.  

This is what we should all be aware of coming down the highway, and preparing for it.  Everybody in DC and most of the world, have been fawning over Algore and his AGW cohorts, for too long.  Algore should be in prison for all this worthless propaganda.   Once it finally dawns on the world's population Mr. Algore will have to go into hiding, because his name will be worthless.  My guess is that he knows this and is trying to rake in all the cash he can before having to hide out from the angry peasants with torches and pitchforks.

Please start studying this subject.  I'm serious.  The US is going to have to either genetically engineer grain that can take freezing temps, or build thousands of huge enclosed glass structures that will allow us to grow food under colder climate. This is already being done in southern Spain, but they will have to change from growing flowers to edible plants.
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(06-04-2019, 05:33 PM)John L Wrote: ...The US is going to have to either genetically engineer grain that can take freezing temps, or build thousands of huge enclosed glass structures that will allow us to grow food under colder climate. This is already being done in southern Spain, but they will have to change from growing flowers to edible plants.

Exactly! We need Winterfells - not Miamis. The problem is that the oncoming cool times move glacially slowly. Since it may take less than a decade to create the cool-era survivability technology, something that takes centuries to occur looks far off.
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For basic grains, I too believe genetic engineering is doable. But for other crops, enclosed growing greenhouses will be necessary. And in order to save heating costs, tapping into underground air supplies will keep the temperatures somewhere in the 50s without having to chew up so many megawatts.
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John,

Quote:I did not say anything about an "Ice Age". I said "Grand Solar Minimum" which is not quite the same.

terminology is not settled, "little Ice Age" is nowadays frequently used to denote either the post optimum period OR climate minimums like Maander and Dalton separately. Let's not argue this.

Otherwise, mostly in agreement, except for two things:

Quote:I have also stated that when the globe cools, it creates a lot of disruption patterns, unlike a warming period, which is much smoother and gradual.

Don't be so sure here. As part of what I'm doing I have collected death statistics for a certain period in a certain town. The data is amazing... may show it one day.

Secondly, there may be a 3rd solution to the crops problem : simply irrigation of warmer areas to the south. If feasible, this is far the cheapest way.
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Here's some classic 18-19th century paintings depicting the Little Ice Age.  A few of them I have seen before, but most are new me.

http://fiveminutehistory.com/20-amazing-...e-ice-age/ - 20 Amazing Winter Paintings from the Little Ice Age

Snow Scene in the South of France
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