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Deterring Copper Thieves
#1
Does this make economic sense?

And here's another thought. Is it worth even saving a little money, only to have someone electrocuted, and then having to pay out untold sums to the litigating families who are outraged by the recklessness of the city?

Quote:SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — There is now a shocking new strategy to fight copper crime. Street lights are now staying on 24-hours a day in one Sacramento neighborhood and the city is banking on live wires to keep criminals away.

But during the day, it just seems like a waste.

“It’s a lot of money going down the drain,” says Steve Douthitt.

Steve Douthitt lives in a neighborhood where street lights stayed on all night and day for a full week.

“I’m just thinking somebody needs to reset the timer,” said Douthitt.

Douthitt has read about the city’s money trouble and thinks this is a shining light of government waste.

“Well, I’m wondering if maybe there’s budget cuts and they can’t send a crew out here to do it,” Douthitt says.

Turns out though, the city had their own light bulb moment to deal with a costly problem: Copper theft.

Mike Waldron is a Sacramento construction supervisor, and is charge of leaving these specific lights on.

“Oh, there’s thousands, thousands,” Waldron says describing the amount of lights left on.

The city now figures keeping them turned on will save money, by warding off copper thieves; keeping the lights on mean live wires, and the unlucky thief who doesn’t know better could be electrocuted.

It’s quite a warning, from a city that’s been hit hard by the copper crime.

“It’s a big deterrent; you think common sense would be a good deterrent, too,” says Waldron.

So in Steve Douthitt’s Natomas neighborhood, all the lights in undeveloped lots are now on for good.

“I believe these are 200 volts, and that would hurt,” said Waldron.
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#2
I have to laugh at the fact people are stealing copper and other metals out of usable infrastructure to earn cash like we live in the third world or something. I am telling you the US is not first world anymore like it was. It's even better that it is coming from California...

Word on the street from my contacts there is that they often bulldoze new homes that have had all the copper ripped out because it's too expensive to replace the stolen goods.
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#3
City street lights? Probably 270 volts, and maybe 480. I predict that some idiot will try to steal the copper anyway, get killed, and his family will sue the city. Since it is California, they will win.

In any case, the wires should be live right to the light fixture, even when the lights aren't on. What kind of screwy lights are they using?
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#4
The entire thing is due to a lack of farsight on the part of the city managers. All it will take is for one person to be killed, and they will be stewed in their own legal juices. After all, they have already acknowledged that it is dangerous, but did it anyway. Lawyers will have a field day over this.

But look, we are obviously dealing with Jackasses here................................................
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#5
hello, did you receive what huh-what stated? the wires are live anyway, and lights on enforces that fact. the city is protecting thieves, and that's something that shouldn't be done, indeed. you could of course tax those who have stolen their wealth from society appropriately, and boost welfare or create some fictional jobs. that really helps against crime.
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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(05-08-2011, 12:16 PM)quadrat Wrote: hello, did you receive what huh-what stated? the wires are live anyway, and lights on enforces that fact. the city is protecting thieves, and that's something that shouldn't be done, indeed. you could of course tax those who have stolen their wealth from society appropriately, and boost welfare or create some fictional jobs. that really helps against crime.

Hello, Anybody home? did you ever consider that perception and reality are two entirely different animals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh9PYtmVy...r_embedded

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