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Obama's/Progressives War On Traditional America & The Constitution
Is there anyone here, who is paying close attention to what is going on with this Shadow War against Traditional America?  For the short run, it is being led by Obama, against Trump and Administration.  But for the long run, it is to do away with the Constitution and install a Collectivist State.  

This really has me worried, and I haven't been able to find a good place to start here.  But this latest Trump accusation about MacDaddy actually tapping his phones and trying to sabotage him before he was even elected, is really bringing it to a head.  And naturally the Progressive Left AND the Whore Media are ridiculing him for being deranged.  

But this doesn't appear to be the case.  Here's what I mean, and this thing actually began back in 2012.

Quote:Obama signs warrantless-wiretapping bill into law

President Barack Obama signed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill into law yesterday after the U.S. Senate voted for an extension of the President George W. Bush-era spy bill 73-23.

The FISA bill gives the government clearance to tap into American citizens’ communications with people outside of the U.S. without a warrant, so long as it is done in the name of collecting foreign intelligence. Obama has previously stated his approval of the bill, saying that the U.S. needs such measures when dealing with national security. More specifically, it means that government entities such as the National Security Agency are able to watch Americans without probable cause. They need only an order from the secret FISA court, and they don’t have to alert the targeted citizen prior to the wiretapping.

At the time the bill’s extension passed, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which protects people’s digital rights, called the decision a “blight on our nation.”

Perhaps more concerning is the fact that the surveillance can begin before an order is received and can continue through an appeals process should the court decide not to issue the order, as Wired notes.

Senators from both sides of the aisle proposed a number of amendments to FISA, including one that would require the government to reveal how many citizens have already been affected by this kind of surveillance. Thus far, we are unsure of the scale of the FISA bills’ effect. Another amendment would force the government to be more transparent about what exactly it is monitoring and what kind of data it is collecting.

The senate voted for the bill’s extension on Friday. It is now set to expire in 2017.

This is all part and parcel of that Homeland Security Act that Junior started right after 9/11.  It has become some sort of monster that is always used by unsavory individuals intent on using the law to violate the liberties of innocent citizens.  

And even though FISA has some form of check to abuse of Liberties, it is still easy to skirt around.  And it seems that is exactly what Obama and Crew did.   If you haven't read this next story yet, you really need to do so, so as to have a firm handle on what is about to come in the near future.  My guess is that the Dumbasses will still cower in the corner and not come out swinging, as they are so prone to do.  This is going to be the Perfect chance to thrust a sword in the very heard of the Jackasses, if used skillfully.  But I have little to no faith in the Republicans to have the moral courage to go after their opponents, OR MacDaddy for that matter.  After all, they are Cowards.

But Trump is indeed an entirely different story.  My guess is that he will charge right into the Enemy and go for Broke.  And if he uses skill and courage, he should be able to solidify his presidency AND show country just who is the biggest danger: Obama and The Progressive Left.

Here is the Must Read, and what is quoted here is just a part of this great article.  You all have Got to read it to fully understand the very scope of Obama's actions and the potential consequences of them.

Quote:Yes, There Could Be Serious Legal Problems if Obama Admin Involved in Illegal Surveillance

Do liberals Progressives understand what Pandora’s Box Obama opened up by Obama using the powers of the NSA, CIA and FBI to spy on his political opponents? Even Nixon never did that.

If the stories are correct, Obama or his officials might even face prosecution. But, we are still early in all of this and there are a lot of rumors flying around so the key is if the reports are accurate. We just don’t know at this time. The stories currently are three-fold: first, that Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent; second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so, third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Are these allegations true? We don’t know yet, but if any part of them are then Obama and/or his officials could face serious trouble.

Can a President be charged with a crime? Only once out of office. While in office, impeachment remains the exclusive remedy in order to avoid a single judicial branch trying to overturn an election, such as a grand jury in any part of the country could. Once out of office, a President remains immune from civil liability for his duties while President, under a 1982 decision of the United States Supreme Court. However, as the Nixon pardon attests, nothing forecloses a criminal prosecution of the President after his presidency is complete for crimes against the country. Obama, the Constitutional lawyer, should know that.

What crimes could have been committed? Ironically, for Democrats falsely accusing Attorney General Sessions, perjury and conspiracy to commit perjury, as well as intentional violations of FISA. Rather shockingly, no law currently forbids misusing the power of the presidency to spy on one’s adversaries. What the law does forbid is lying to any judicial officer to obtain any means of surveillance. What the law does forbid, under criminal penalty, is the misuse of FISA. Both derive from the protections of the Fourth Amendment itself. Under section 1809, FISA makes it a crime for anyone to either “engage in” electronic surveillance under “color of law” under FISA without following the law’s restrictions, or “disclose” or “use” information gathered from it in contravention of the statute’s sharp constrictions.
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Obama's/Progressives War On Traditional America & The Constitution - by John L - 03-05-2017, 10:01 PM

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