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Are Geneva Conventions outdated?
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Murdok Wrote:You know - you all are blowing hot air. Not to mention some the comments above are bordering on racism.

No one said appease them. Not me that's for sure. I thought we should have bombed the sh-it out of that little twerp Al-Sadr whether he was in his mosque or not. Weakness in military operations is not an option in my opinion. We should be as tough and unyelding as is possible, while trying to avoid civilian casualties. But how we treat prisoners after we get them in custody is something where we should show the Arab world that we are better than our worst impulses and better than they are in how they treat their prisoners. The Saudis are among the worst at torturing their prisoners - even going so far as partially beheading people, severing their spine and keeping them alive so the executed can watch themselves slowly die and not be able to move as they bleed to death.

Who in here has it in them to actually torture someone? I bet I can name a couple at the very least. When you have someone in custody - they are under your total control. Showing prisoners mercy is in the Koran as much as it is in the GC if we are to believe some of the more moderate voices in the ME and Bush himself. The Geneva Conventions were put in place for good reasons. Mostly because they help keep us from dropping to the level of savages - and most of you in here post pretty words that in the end are nothing more than the rantings of savage wannabes.

Once we have a prisoner in custody - it's game over for that guy. He is out of play...we did not create a martyr and he is not elevated in status if he is still alive - just captured and out of the way. Harmless.

I love it how so many in here are quick to let others spill blood for you...a bunch of arm chair warriors to be sure.

In war - we show our might - we kick ass and show the enemy no quarter - the Arabs understand this. But if we fail to show mercy once we have won the battle - we are no different than our enemy - funny how all of you want to be Arabs...it's really sad.




Jeepers! I'm having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.
Lets see on one hand you want to blow up Al-sadr regardless of civilian losses and cultural ramifications. But on the other hand the rest of us are trigger happy blood thirsty arm chair warriors. Interesting dichotomy.

Regarding the war on terror: Since our enemy is a stateless entity current GC rules dont really apply. When I say the rules should be changed accordingly I mean that we must be very carefull not to change them so that we do not in any lend any legitimacy to these terrorist thugs.

I dont see or hear anyone advocating torture and I fail to see how the photos from Abu Ghraib constitute torture if that is what you are implying.

Sort of seems you might be trying to ride on both sides of the fence which is why it is difficult to understand what you are saying.
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Are Geneva Conventions outdated? - by mv - 05-31-2004, 06:48 PM
[No subject] - by John L - 05-31-2004, 06:57 PM
[No subject] - by mv - 05-31-2004, 06:59 PM
[No subject] - by WmLambert - 06-01-2004, 11:47 AM
[No subject] - by pickled shuttlecock - 06-01-2004, 06:22 PM
[No subject] - by Aretstikapha - 06-01-2004, 06:36 PM
[No subject] - by WmLambert - 06-01-2004, 06:54 PM
[No subject] - by Baldar - 06-01-2004, 08:37 PM
[No subject] - by WmLambert - 06-01-2004, 09:25 PM
[No subject] - by mv - 06-03-2004, 02:08 PM
[No subject] - by ag - 06-03-2004, 02:44 PM
[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-03-2004, 10:38 PM
[No subject] - by WmLambert - 06-03-2004, 10:50 PM
[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-03-2004, 11:17 PM
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[No subject] - by mv - 06-04-2004, 12:09 AM
[No subject] - by mv - 06-04-2004, 01:23 AM
[No subject] - by Baldar - 06-04-2004, 01:28 AM
[No subject] - by mv - 06-04-2004, 01:39 AM
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[No subject] - by bob - 06-04-2004, 10:41 AM
[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-04-2004, 12:07 PM
[No subject] - by mv - 06-04-2004, 04:44 PM
[No subject] - by bob - 06-04-2004, 04:54 PM
[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-04-2004, 05:17 PM
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[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-05-2004, 09:43 PM
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[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-06-2004, 08:23 PM
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[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-08-2004, 05:49 PM
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[No subject] - by Murdok - 06-09-2004, 01:34 AM
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