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The end of America, knives are exposed. - Yankeecat - 01-31-2007
Chirac strikes again. Having utterly failed to hobble the U.S. with Kyoto, he now presumes to govern the U.S. by fiat. If ever there was doubt that Kyoto was really a treaty about world govenment and hobbling the U.S., it is finished...
http://iht.com/articles/2007/01/31/news/climate.php
This proves three things:
1- The europeans are totally delusional as they would be destroyed in any trade war with the U.S..
2- That their aim is to hobble the U.S. economically while forcing world government run by europeans on us.
3- That Chirac (and those who agree with him) are imbeciles.
The U.S. response should be as follows:
1- Any european nation voting for this automatically loses its "Most favored nation" status.
2- If any european nation at all votes for this, the U.S. should immediately leave NATO.
3- The U.S. should invoke a tarriff double the European tarriff on all imports from europe if this is attempted.
4- The U.S. should pass a resolution that it will never under any condition, sign Kyoto.
Europe has exposed it's true colors. We should use this as an opportunity to crush them, completely and finally.
P.S. - Yankeecat - 01-31-2007
For those of you who think (and have thought) over the years that I am some eccentric ass**** for going on about all this, this has been why. This all has literally been a war waged on the U.S. without any response from us for decades. It is the most serious threat to our national soveriegnty and charachter ever.
They have set us up to perfection.
You heard it here first.
The plan... - Yankeecat - 01-31-2007
Here's how I think it was done...
Americans have never understood the depths of hatred held towards the U.S. in many quarters for so many years. Post WWII, the socialists in europe realized they had two enemies, the Communists and the Capitalists. They knew they were too weak, too effeminate culturally, to defeat the Communism, so, they went along with the U.S. hoping all the while that it would become a social democracy like they planned to be.
But, as things would have it, they made two miscalculations. First, capitalism did not start to fall of it's own accord. Instead, it prospered and began to present a viable alternative they thought impossible. Second, a fatal flaw appeared in their scheme, which was that Capitalism was out competing and out innovating them, thereby threatening the economic survival of their system.
So, several decades ago, whenit became apparent to a number of scientists that the planet was going to be heating up as it always had due to a regular cycle of solar activity. A plan was hatched... the U.S. would be forced to sign a treaty which would ruin it using guilt over supposed carbon emmissions as the lever.
But again, another flaw. the U.S. refused to cave in to their pressure. In response, fury and anger were enlisted to apply pressure to the U.S.. Then, when an incompetent U.S. administration provided the opportunity, out comes the dagger.
Far fetched, I think not.
http://www.sovereignty.net/center/chirac.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/30/harper-kyoto.html
- Independents4Bush - 01-31-2007
We can crush them economically by restructuring ourselves here at home. First we need to reduce the size of the federal government by removing unconstitutional bureaucracies. The 10Th amendment must be enforced. Second we need a flat tax. Third we need to drill for our oil here at home. Then we can put tariffs on their crap.
The future. - Yankeecat - 01-31-2007
So here is how it is going to go down. Now, notice the timing. Chirac does this on the day in which: Castro show he's not dead, Chavez get's Pro-Consular powers in Venezuela, the U.S. is at the ebb of it's fortunes in the middle east and in the eyes of the world, the U.S. economy show un-expected strength, a few weeks after Germany proposes a "common market" with the U.S. (good cop, bad cop).
There will be an international conference. The U.S. will be isolated and villified. It will be a real circus. Fifth column elements in the U.S. will "suggest" a compromise (remember the Godfather).
If the U.S. signs, they have won. If not, the U.S. is villified and attacked economically until we cave or act like evil arrogant violent Americans by trying to defend ourselves.
I'm no consipracy freak. I don't believe everyone is in on this. But, I know my history and I never underestimate human nature (I would bet my pension plan that the euro Red/Green Alliance were in some way complicit in 911).
Re: The end of America, knives are exposed. - John L - 01-31-2007
Yankeecat Wrote:
This proves three things:
1- The europeans are totally delusional as they would be destroyed in any trade war with the U.S..Why a Trade War? Everyone loses.
2- That their aim is to hobble the U.S. economically while forcing world government run by europeans on us.It won't work anyway. Bloviation is free
3- That Chirac (and those who agree with him) are imbeciles. no arguement there. He IS an intelligent Idiot.
The U.S. response should be as follows:
1- Any european nation voting for this automatically loses its "Most favored nation" status. I agree in principle. No nation should have "Most favoured status". All or none should be that way.
2- If any european nation at all votes for this, the U.S. should immediately leave NATO. That is not going to make any difference, except remove any influence militarily that we may have with the Euros
3- The U.S. should invoke a tarriff double the European tarriff on all imports from europe if this is attempted. That is Absolutely Rediculous! If two people are in a boat, and one pulls out a shotgun, and shoots holes in their end of the boat, following suit is equally idiotic.
Jude Wannisky showed very persuasively that the Crash of 1929 was a result of anticipation of Smoot-Hawley, and Smoot-Hawley was the cause of world wide depression. Tarrif wars only hurt EVERYONE. The best course is to maintain open markets from Europe,and if Europe chooses to shoot it's own foot, then let them have at it.
4- The U.S. should pass a resolution that it will never under any condition, sign Kyoto. I agree that we should never even consider it. After all, the Euros are not living up to it anyway. However, resorting to a resolution to NEVER pass it would be giving the Euros more attention than they deserve.
Europe has exposed it's true colors. We should use this as an opportunity to crush them, completely and finally. Why? There are many, in Europe, who love Americans. Punishing them for the sins and stupitidy of others is not the right thing to do. That is the same thing as erecting a trade barrier because the other did so first. Bad policy. If someone breaks into your house, attacks your family, or does harm to your friends, going out and picking others to pay back is just intellectually myopic. Plus, it is not the Christian thing to do. Since I believe in the Messiah, I try to live a good and responsible life.
Again, I agree. The Euros are colossal Idiots, but we knew that already. fortunalely, there are enough there, who could make up a core opposition, and we should encourage them to try to make changes from within.
The Euros underlying problem is Collectivism, or as the late Balint Vazsonyi called it, Franco-German Socialism. It is the noose around their collective necks(see Fit', I can use that word without becoming sick.
) Until they finally wise up and repudiate this enslaving, degrading, and horrific ideology, they will continue to be behind the curve AND hate us for steadily pulling away from them. Typical GetEvenWithEmIsm, that allows for a bastardization of Equality: Egalitarianism. We should pity them, rather than be angry. They are akin to the crazy uncle, who really needs to be locked up in the basement, until they are willing to seek help.
- John L - 01-31-2007
Oh, and speaking of Le Devil, get this.
Quote:Chirac Unfazed by Nuclear Iran, Then Backtracks
By ELAINE SCIOLINO and KATRIN BENNHOLD
PARIS, Jan. 31 â President Jacques Chirac said this week that if Iran had one or two nuclear weapons, it would not pose a big danger, and that if Iran were to launch a nuclear weapon against a country like Israel, it would lead to the immediate destruction of Tehran.
The remarks, made in an interview on Monday with The New York Times, The International Herald Tribune and Le Nouvel Observateur, a weekly magazine, were vastly different from stated French policy and what Mr. Chirac has often said.
On Tuesday, Mr. Chirac summoned the same journalists back to Ãlysée Palace to retract many of his remarks.
Mr. Chirac said repeatedly during the second interview that he had spoken casually and quickly the day before because he believed he had been talking about Iran off the record.
âI should rather have paid attention to what I was saying and understood that perhaps I was on the record,â he said.
It will be interesting to see if he receives some sweet little PR deal with Tehran when he leaves office. Hard to say, but with the French, nothing is as it should be.
U.S. reaction - Yankeecat - 02-01-2007
What we should do is to pass a "population density" tarriff and goods from nations with a higher population density then our own.
Re: U.S. reaction - Fit2BThaied - 02-01-2007
Yankeecat Wrote:What we should do is to pass a "population density" tarriff and goods from nations with a higher population density then our own.What would be the tariff on an area as dense as metropolitan New York City? Who even counts population density in FTA's and trade treaties?
Re: U.S. reaction - John L - 02-01-2007
Yankeecat Wrote:What we should do is to pass a "population density" tarriff and goods from nations with a higher population density then our own.
Passing ANY tariff would be self-defeating and not a smart idea. It is the worst way to go about fixing problems.