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Could Kerry be charged by ICC? - mr_yak - 08-06-2004

This is a bit of a split from the "Unfit for Duty" thread in the U.S. Politics Section. Kerry has admitted to violating International Law with regards to the conduct of war. He has further admitted to committing attrocities during war. The U.S. government has done nothing to charge or hold him accountable for these actions. Therefore it is 'technically feasable' that the ICC (which exists to hold individuals accountable when their governments are unable or unwilling or uninterested in bringing them to justice) could charge, try and convict him of war crimes.

Am I being flippant or does this really seem like a can of worms?


- ag - 08-07-2004

Only if he will (suddenly) start to follow Bush footsteps. :lol:


- mr_yak - 08-07-2004

ag Wrote:Only if he will (suddenly) start to follow Bush footsteps. :lol:

So you think he would really have all that much of a choice?


- Aretstikapha - 08-07-2004

Your key phrase in "technically". I think it's highly unlikely they would pursue Kerry's claim of atrocities since so many of them have turned out to be complete fabrications. The one he committed amounted to little more than burning down a few huts and killing some livestock - a violation but not one worth pursuing 40 years later.


- mr_yak - 08-07-2004

You may be underestimating European animosity. :?


- ag - 08-07-2004

Quote:So you think he would really have all that much of a choice?
If you are talking about rational choices the A. is no. However, some of prev. pres. are known to pursue the irrational ones.


- WmLambert - 08-07-2004

In 1986 before Congress, Kerry stated that he was ordered into Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968, and was shot at by drunken celebratory ARVN forces illegally there. He said he was ordered into Cambodia by Nixon which was against the law. His admitting to being there is a war crime. However Nixon wasn't president in 1968, so this is just more evidence of his lying.

An interesting court case when his defense was that he was lying.


- mr_yak - 08-07-2004

WmLambert Wrote:An interesting court case when his defense was that he was lying.

OK we'll call that Defense #1

How about Defense #2 ?

John Kerry Wrote: ... I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty.

Oldest one in the book ... I didn't know it was illegal! Aren't they suposed to cover that stuff in OCS? :?