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Trump's affairs with pornstars, playboy models...
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(12-12-2018, 04:08 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Cohen “take a bullet” for Trump

I don't understand something: Why this payment had to be made through his lawyer and campain adviser, and de facto, from campain funds?

Why couldn't he take some cash from his pocket money?

Another question: Are these poeple going to the same jailhouses as the black weed sellers or they have prisons for the riches (or separate quarters)?

Fred, the mistake most folks make is that he paid all this out of campaign funds. But he didn't. It seems he paid it out of his own money, which makes this all look bad, but breaking no laws. Now, if he really did pay it from his own money, there's really no case here, other than Jackasses and the Whore Media throwing pies at him. And I think this may be just what they are doing in order to get his ratings down low enough to throw him out of office, and at the same time feel good about themselves.

The truth is that he is hated more than anyone walking on two feet. And for two reasons. The first is that he is am Asshole, and has no tact whatsoever. And I can't say I disagree here. He's a Frickin' New Yawker, so what does anyone expect. But secondly, he is an outsider and definitely not remotely a part of the Deep State Establishment. And that just cannot be allowed to take place. The overwhelming majority of the Establishment, with a few exceptions, hate him most for that very thing. How Dare he have the audacity to run, and win, the country's highest Establishment position. This is an unpardonable sin if you are in the Deep State Establishment.

Now, I personally don't like him, and I have opposed him on this site, while he was running for the Republican candidate. But the truth is that he is accomplishing some unbelievable things that are hard to sweep under the rug. He's doing things that untold Deep Staters would never know how to accomplish. And if he can cause even half of them to jump off a cliff, I'm all for it. S22
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#42
(12-12-2018, 04:08 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: Cohen “take a bullet” for Trump

I don't understand something: Why this payment had to be made through his lawyer and campain adviser, and de facto, from campain funds?

Why couldn't he take some cash from his pocket money?

Another question: Are these poeple going to the same jailhouses as the black weed sellers or they have prisons for the riches (or separate quarters)?

I think he was too busy being a prick and humping women behind doors, to round up the money to keep his "victims" quiet about how bad he is at humping them, Cohen who smartly avoid sampling the "victims" wants them quiet too, to keep his boss happy.
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#43
I wonder about the "New Yawker" attribution. As far back as I can trace, he has always had two personnas. The first one is absolutely humane and kindly. This is the side that reads about a kid who can't fly to America for medical treatment, because the airlines won't transport the equipment with him that keeps him alive. Trump immediately sent his personal jet to get him to his doctors on hius own dime. This is the side that puts women in positions of responsibility, and buys a country club that exclused women and immediately opens it for all cpmers.

The other side is the one that deals with openly hostile politicians who lie through their teeth and work to cause pain and suffering. While others may look the other way, Trump has always opposed them with long-ranged actions that end up humiliating the bad guys.
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#44
I didn't study the details, but it's seem clear that the money can be legally retraced as campaign fund. One part of the money was paid by a newspaper and it was considered a donation. The other part was paid by Cohen and Trump repaid him later. Because of this it was considered as campaign fund.

And it's what it was. These payments were made with the sole purpose of securing a seamless, unstained presidency campaign. Had Trump not run for presidency, he would never have paid these amounts.
It's not only a legal finding, it's reality. It's true fact that Trump, through his associate, invested this money for his campaign. He can't even argue that.

It's especialy coward because he can't assume what he did. Probably had he acknowledged the fact for what they were, like "Yes, I had an intercourse with a pornstar, for a short time, 10 years ago, So what?" nothing would have happened. People even like such spicy anecdotes even if the puritanic culture pretends otherwise. It was 10 years ago for godsake. But even as old as it was he was too afraid of it. And didn't imagine everybody would know it anyway.

But there is worse: Trump knew it was legally wrong to do so. He had been warned. And did it anyway. Cohen knew he was putting himself and Trump into illegal waters. And Trump knew he was telling his associate to do something illegal (or which could appear to be illegal later) despite the risks.

This is abysmally stupid. Therefore the question why he just didn't take cash from his safe and drive to the women'home and give it to them icognito?

I think, Trump is so full of it, that he thought that making a payment transfer through his lawyer would give some legal basis to attack the women in case they choose to speak despite the money.
Not only they spoke but the legal basis turned against him.

He knew it, he knew the risk. Deserves it well.

JL Wrote:But the truth is that he is accomplishing some unbelievable things
I agree that what he does is unbelievable. But it's not positive things. I still fail to see one positive achievement so far.

Personally, I don't care that he hanged around with prostitutes. The problem is that he's managing your country the same way he managed this affair...
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(12-18-2018, 04:17 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: I agree that what he does is unbelievable. But it's not positive things. I still fail to see one positive achievement so far.

I'm curious Fred, what "unbelievable" things do you think he has done?
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#46
John Who, His tariff war, and now his gov shutdown, are properly unbelievable. This guy is totally insane IMO. If you want to discuss this, please post comment on these specific topics in the appropriate discussion threads.
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(01-05-2019, 06:50 PM)Fredledingue Wrote: John Who, His tariff war, and now his gov shutdown, are properly unbelievable. This guy is totally insane IMO. If you want to discuss this, please post comment on these specific topics in the appropriate discussion threads.

Those things are not unbelievable. There is no "tariff war". There is strategy to address other countries' tariffs that have gone unaddressed by former Presidents. Whether the end result is far better than the status quo will be judged over time. Many improvements have already been accomplished, and some are in flux. Prejudging is small-minded and presumptive. The government shutdown is also not unbelievable. To listen to Pelosi and Schumer call walls "immoral" when they always supported them when A Democrat President was in the WhiteHouse is unbelievable. There is nothing insane about Trump, but his detractors rationalizing their hatred is.
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#48
Was gonna post something similar, WL, so thanks.

Some of the things that are "totally insane" is the prominent Democrats' documented support for border security, including some sort of barrier, and their lack of support for it now simply because Trump supports it. It is somewhat "totally insane" also that there are people who seem to think the Democrat position is rational and logical.

Fred, the Democrats are promoting a very nasty sort of politics while President Trump is doing what he believes is the will of the people. Indeed, it probably is the will of the people since those Democrats supported it as the "will of the people" until Trump supported it. It is curious to me that if you represent a "Eurocentric" point of view on this issue and don't see the irrationality of the Democrats behavior, how utterly distorted the information must be that you are being fed.
I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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#49
Hope Hicks: Much hotter than Monika Lewinsky! S2
Trump has better taste (or better success?) than Bill Clinton.

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